His guild is rank 120something on Mograine, they haven’t fully cleared AQ yet (Viscy missing), but it’s very obvious that Forest here is nothing but a bench warmer.
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/guild/rankings/519559/latest/Do people still remember the point of the OP or the fact it was completely wrong is what ignited this wild dive into offtopic territory?
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Honestly, I don’t pay much attention to Silinaee, so I tend to forget what he says shortly after reading it.
He posted 2 “world” buffs that are extremely limitted and then implied “tehe, still got world buffs in TBC!”
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But you clear it 8.9 mins slower than guys waiting and timing for world buffs (true, that can make them waiting and losing hours, but stilll they clear 15yo content abit faster than you haah!)
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Lol, what? - Maybe play difficulties above LFR xD.
Retail is for difficulty, classic is for the community.
Funnily enough, my guild does better without world buffs… for one reason… all they care about is not losing their world buffs in the raid… once nobody has them, they don’t care and will actually sacrifice themselves instead…
Our non world buff runs are usually faster due to this reason lmao.
Kekw u mad motherflower.
Dunno why all you guys lost your mind on my thread.
And Retail guys, nobody care about your stupid Cutting Edge, if you want to expose your skill in a hard game, goto Counter Strike or Starcraft 2. WoW is a easy game.
Demolishing Forest =/= losing our minds; learn to read.
Not as mad as the poor woman that wasted nine months of her life carrying you.
You lose your minds, because the original thread is about the TBC world buff. And you talk about Warcraftlogs of Forest and guild ranking when you are not playing Classic. Dranei doesn’t exist. You have 2717 posts, can’t imagine the time you spend writing useless thing that nobody read instead of working. And you said you don’t pay attention to me but you remember my name. What a mess.
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Seriously this thread has turned pretty toxic. Please keep a proper manner and discuss the topic instead.
Read the rest of your thread instead of your first post and my own.
It’s pretty obvious that I do play Classic, but not on this character.
One can write AND work, stupid child. I know your brain can’t handle multitasking or even comprehending simple words; but the rest of us aren’t hindered by such low brain usage.
I remember the vast majority of my life, but your words are kind of like wrappers on food. I acknowledge that they’re there, but are they worth reading? No. Do I remember every word of a wrapper? No, why would I memorise them?
That’s what your posts are. They’re worthless, wholely worthless; like the entirity of your life.
I don’t know why you waste my time trying to argue with me. Forest there has a better chance of joining Progress with his grey and green parses than you have of taking me in an argument.
The topic ran its course. “Haha look world buffs in TBC” which was followed up with “They’re not serverwide and only apply in certain areas”.
There’s nothing more to discuss, other than the sheer idiocy of a few posters in this thread: both of which selected hunters.
Why is it always the hunters?
Why don’t you compare that to the wipes that happened in VANILLA and not Classic when the content is 15 years old and has been getting perfected by players on private servers for years and lets not forget that we are playing on the last patch of Classic with talents, are facing a nerfed C’thun and everyone is stacking Wbuffs which Blizzard never intended players to do they added them to give the game a bit more flavour and because they thought it was cool not to cheese your way through boss mechanics and make gear irrelevant.
Guess what if they released BFA again in 15 years, you know what players will be saying then? “It’s so easy, how did anyone ever struggle on this?”
Because he’s clueless. Exactly like Miylee, this guy is clueless, post tantrum everyday at any hours, cry about walljumping in Classic and then want changes because he can’t do the jump. The original thread is now destroyed by Miylee, once again.
If I release BFA in 15 years, with 7/8 years of BFA private server, in patch 8.3 with all the hotfix and the nerfs, the corruption vendor, we will kill N’Zoth 2 hours after the release. No need to be Elon Musk to know that.
Not exactly. Classic has one single difficulty, retail has several. In 15 years time; assuming people could be bothered to play BFA for 15 years, a lot of people will still struggle with Mythic.
LFR, Normal and Heroic are fairly easy difficulties, that’s what they were intended as.
In Classic, you can switch your difficulty up slightly by not running with Wbuffs, but that only adds length to fights and not actual difficulty. The higher you climb in retail, the more mechanically demanding the fights becomes.
We’re also pretty much caught up to Vanilla at this point. We have the same items, itemisation and talents as what others did during this phase. The only difference is the C’thun nerf, which was considered mathmatically impossible at the time.
It’s a shame Blizzard didn’t bring that back, even if only for a week. I’m beyond confident that many players from Classic would prove the mathematically impossible part wrong.
Speaking of utterly clueless, you’ve responded TO MIYLEE and not to Goldmine, idiot.
Read what I said. I’ll quote it for you.
I know, I know. You can’t read.
Destroyed? Your thread was god damn pointless and you know it. Plain old bait made to start an argument, because that’s what you do. You start arguments and then cry when you lose; at least I stick to my roots and back my opinions up.
373 posts? More like dropped on your head 373 times.
My thread isn’t pointless, there’s world buff in TBC, when people think there’s not. Sure people can find strategy to use them to min max like in Classic, and nobody know if they are zone-wide or only for yourself (private server are not accurate). I can read, but not wall of text when you say nothing valuable. You spend 5 minutes per post, and you wrote 2719 posts, so I assume you spend 9 days in total to write everything ? Nobody will remember you so stop wasting your time to make forum toxic. Also when you spend 5 minutes to write a message everytime I have to wait myself 5 minutes and I’m working and have a family, I don’t waste my time for nothing like you. And you say you play Classic, but who know if you are a liar ? Post your logs ? So we can compare with Forest and see which guy will end in Progress guild. I can post mine if you want, but tons of orange and pink parse will hurt your eyes because you only see grey.
Ugh.
What next, want to say “Hey look, catchup gear is in TBC too!”
“Hey look, TBC also has some bad tier items!”
Yeah, very useful.
…So you mean actual TBC never happened and nobody has any memory of how those world buffs worked?
Do you really think people back in TBC didn’t know about world buffs? News flash, Classic’s world buffs were nerfed IN TBC because people gimped content with them. That’s when the level cap of 63 was added to Vanilla world buffs.
you think 9 days in total in the whole of the 2 years that this board has existed is a lot? That means I’ve spent around 1.5% of my overall time here. That’s less time than I’ve spent waiting for buses.
Ha, next joke.
Could have fooled me. With the way you communicate with people, I would have assumed you were 14 years old.
It doesn’t really matter what I say to you at this point. I could link you the profile of some random player from a completely different server to me, and you’d either believe me or not.
I’m on the server Bloodfang, I’m in the guild Enigmatic; formerly of Firemaw. My parses vary from blue to orange; blue is what I get when I die. Anything less is because of fights like Viscidus where our tactic is to have the melee sit out during the freezing phase.
My parses are above average, yet below elitist. I’m quite happy with them, they’re much better than Forest. Yet unlike Forest, I don’t run my mouth off at other posters about what they do in game. Unlike Forest, I don’t preach Classic dominance whilst simutainiously sucking at Classic.
If you haven’t noticed because you’re too stupid to actually read, I run my mouth off at people about what they post here.
On that note: you made a comment on how my posts are long. My posts look longer than they actually are because they’re split up into things called “sentences” and “paragraphs”. That makes them easier to read, even for people like you.
Mmmmm let me see how I killed c’thun…
Oh with no world buff (all the raid).
And I never played on pirate server.
So ya sorry to delude you but a boss that has 4 mechanics in p1 (c’thun) vs a boss that has 20 + all the raid takes 50k dmg every 3 sec(oh and don’t count psycus where half the raid go there) , the first is always going to be easier.
C’thun dark glare is even slover than N’zoth beans (and that is the easiest mechanic in the fight)
Ah wait you are the guy… “i played in scrubbuster top 10 world!!! 1111 I also was pro in m+ in Legion, but not in this account on the other i lost”
OMEGALUL
As I said you are was fighting a nerfed C’thun with P6 talents on a legion client that doesn’t perfectly mimic vanilla and was designed 15 years ago when players had dial up and potato computers, of course it’s easy.
That doesn’t change the fact that this boss went 80 days undefeated back in Vanilla so it obviously wasn’t that easy back then was it.
That’s taking numbers completely out of context.
The old records weren’t based on difficulty of fights but lack of information. Guilds had to go in and learn the mechanics themselves, they didn’t have an abundance of fan websites and guides ready made for every encounter.
People also used Ventrilo back then, which is inferior to discord in every way. Discord is just so damn good for sharing information and tactics. Raid leaders don’t have to keep pinging on the map whilst trying to explain what to do, they can simply say “tab out and look at the picture in discord”.
…That’s assuming there’s even anybody that doesn’t know the fights.
And as I said: we’re now caught up to Vanilla in terms of talents, nerfs, gear and itemisation. It’s not like we’re running through Molten Core with 1.12.1 talents now. These are the same builds that people in old Ahn’Qiraj had.
That was largely because it was bugged as heck, with tentacles spawning inside his stomach among other things. He didn’t survive for long after it was fixed.
Also, a boss staying alive for long doesn’t necessarily mean it’s “difficult”, at least not in the normal sense of the word. Four Horsemen, for example, stayed alive for a long time not because it’s an especially difficult encounter (if your raid has the discipline to manage Twins, they probably can handle 4 Horsemen as well), but because it required 8 tanks with either 4 T3 pieces each or the ZG trinket (which, back then, few saw as a tank trinket at all, so most warriors probably didn’t have it). So, it was less about learning the encounter and more about taking a long time to prepare for it.
EDIT: Also what Showofskills said - by 1.9, almost every class had their current talents (with mages being the only relevant exception - and even then, their Fire spec only got 3% Spell hit, that’s all). It kinda feels like a lot of ppl like to throw words like “nerfed content” around without really knowing what they’re talking about, or the nature and the extent of said “nerfs”.