I’m not reading all that for your misunderstanding.
Gear is not in this equation. We will get X amount of gear eventually.
So you can’t optimize it, you can just luck it out.
Covenant and conduits are not going to be fully unlocked(read: NOT TIME-GATED) once we have every conduit and every soulbind.
Sooo they figured out the optimal build togheter, yeah i can buy that. However will the non-meta feral druid be 3k io ?
They arent meta-slaves they are meta-owners big deal. Are they part of the meta-yes. NEXT.
Well, me neither then. I took time to post a long thread explaining things to you. You decided that I do not understand, without even reading beforehand.
Good bye.
Dude, i play my class and spec already.
On my main this expac(and previous ones) i can:
- play my main spec effectively in raids
- play my main spec effectively in M+
- play my main spec effectively in random bg’s
- play my main spec effectively in arenas
- play my main spec effectively while doing dailies
- play my main spec effectively while doing old raids
- could play my off spec effectively in raids
- could play my main off effectively in M+
- could play my main off effectively in random bg’s
- could play my main off effectively in arenas
- could play my main off effectively while doing dailies
- could play my main off effectively while doing old raids
On my main in Shadowlands i can:
You can cut out the offspec part, but you can also put other things in there like Visions versus Torghast and whatever else game modes there will be versus islands/warfronts.
I have those choices now to play the game how i want because they’re not artificially time-gated. I WON’T have them in Shadowlands.
Stop spamming.
it’s not hard to understand how GEAR has no relation to this issue.
You can continue to think it does. Your mistake.
Says the one bumping the thread?
P.S. You know i can’t reply to my own thread unless someone posted something after me no? Well you know now.
They dont want me in Goldshire anymore. How about the Cathedral dungeons people there are… well they are people… I think.
You shouldn’t take Rayzens seriously.
He likes hurting people’s feelings. He’ll be banned one of these days for sure. Just try and ignore him; or just make fun of him.
You’re offtopic. Read what I said earlier if you want to understand. It’s free. Unlike EA dlc
You shouldn’t take yourself seriously either… i don’t. (talking about me ofc)
When did i hurt your feelings? lol
Pretty sure i created the topic.
Also: Never buy from EA… i don’t.
Of course, not everything. Theorizing is fine, filling in plot holes is not.
Back to the point tho, I just don’t see why class abilities couldn’t have just been a part of the class/spec as it’s always been. I doubt anyone would complain if they were like that from the beginning. We haven’t got a new talent row in 3 expansions now, or new baseline abilities outside of revamps. I’d rather they’d build upon the specs than try to create one-size-fits-all type class abilities for specs that are completely different. And the disconnect between class ability and covenant still irks me.
Regarding the offtopic thing I’m talking about what I said about gear. You did not understood what I tried to explain earlier. I tried to clarify in the longpost.
For EA: goodboi. Also don’t preorder.
I sense a story here… Do tell!
Ehm… I’m allergic to cathedrals or churches.
How about we meet in the Dalaran sewers? I hear those rats are delicious, so we won’t have to pack lunches.
You know what’s amazing?
They don’t give us new abilities because it causes bloat and all that.
But now they gave us back OLD and boring abilities, causing MORE bloat.
Instead of doing stupid stuff like that, they could have given us a new talent row for the next 5 expansions. 
Fine i’ll read it… but i gotta finish my work first, for EA. 
Sure, but what we were discussing is not a plot hole.
You are looking for an explanation to something that doesn’t warrant it.
Yeah, I agree. I would have been fine with that.
But that’s not what we got. We got promised a system that sounded great to me and I want to try it out. The way Blizzard intended it.
In the meantime they go about it in such a way that there’s more FotM classes/specs than ever and it’s going to change every Light-damned balance hotfix. Excuse me for continuing to doubt them.
The Wicked Witch 1, sad meta-hating panda 0.
I don’t think the old abilities cause any bloat. A lot of the abilities will go unused, like baseline corruption for warlocks or fire blast for mages. They’re just kinda there. I wish they would actually rework the classes back into being classes and not three-in-one that are all basically their own class, because it seems they changed their design philoshophy and designed a system with that in mind without actually thinking if the game is designed that way, and now we have class wide abilities that only work well with one spec.
Vindictive blood elf tryhard -1.
You should, 'cause it’s fantastic.
Can be. Don’t see a reason why it can’t.
I beat Jaina Mythic using a Guardian Druid and I was playing the “wrong” build. I was the only guy in the world who did that.
Whoop?
Worked great. I’d dare say it worked better than the “meta” build. Although I took more damage, my intake was far more consistent and healable.
There also weren’t many Guardian Druids tanking that in the first place.
Whoop-whoop?
Off-builds often work. Not always, but often.
But of course you want to take the best that you enjoy. So do that. But don’t take stuff you hate. Don’t lose your fun.
It is a big deal. They like what they’re playing, the meta slave doesn’t. It’s a HUGE deal in point of fact.
Oh no, save me from the point-scorers.
Do you also make YouTube videos like “A DESTROYYYYS B in silly debate! ANNIHILATED!” ?
Now this is something I fundamentally totally disagree with.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE BM hunter. I HATE HATE HATE mm hunter.
BM hunter good.
MM hunter bad.
I don’t want ANY of that filthy mm stuff coming near my beloved spec.