Exactly. And this where you will excel is part of your identity. And if you dont care about it then you dont care about rpg game which means you play wrong game.
Nailed it.
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This almost made me laugh out loud because it’s always the case and his response just popped up under as I read it.
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People will just watch rio and if you have a good one they will Inv you as always.
Have corruptions tought you nothing ? People were getting benched/declined regardless of IO because of not having the cofefe ones. Prot Paladins are still beeing declined.
This is an MMORPG, a video game, not reskined tabletop D&D on a computer screen. It might actually be you who’s in the wrong place if all you care about is RPing and gameplay means nothing to you.
Hey he will have such a great time showcasing his “identity” doing WQs.
Ah, like the time I got invited into a key in S1 as affliction, 2chested and then got kicked for the next key because now they knew I was playing affliction? Good times.
I strongly disagree here, or it would basically screw once more DPS spec from healing classes because “Oh, you can heal so you deal less damages”
I would say that makes sense for pure DPS classes but not for classes that can play different roles.
Besides,
it’s a mess, for sure !
No m8… this won’t happen like you think it will:
- Nobody will invite you if you have the wrong covenants since they know you can’t switch fast.
- You actually get to talk with them:
Premise: Covenants locked
A) Raid/Party leader asks you to switch. You say you can’t(Duhh lol). You don’t get an invite.
Premise: Covenants unlocked
A) Raid/Party leader asks you to switch. You say you won’t. You don’t get an invite.
B) Raid/Party leader asks you to switch. You say you will. You get an invite.
As you can see… having covenants unlocked will allow you the option to at least adapt to the requests of the party/raid leader. As opposed to not being able to and not getting the spot.
How I shoud know where I want be in this expansion before I do it? There is no information how my class/spec will work, are m+ fun in shadowlands? Are raids better than Nyalotha or Uldir? Do pvp suck like in BFA? I have more questions but no single answear!
And people were getting benched/declined because they were not a meta class.
Declining because people have different expectations happened way prior to Covenants.
So what’s your point here? Either they were stupid af, or you sucked hard.
You are basically proving my point that you won’t get invited because of your class anyway, is not like Covenant risk to introduce a new problem into the game.
They see you in que, they see the meta dps que after you. You get declined.
Again, i can see your worries. But since it is a game after all i wanna try and play it like Blizzard imagined it.
I won’t die irl if system is bad, i mean i was able to have fun in 8.3 after all.
It’s especially funny because you get to chose your covenant and you do this before you are presented any Soulbind benefits…
Yes i pointed out Prot Paladins, your case ? Im starting to think that you agree with me and IO wont save you.
Yes sometimes it happens. Covenants will not change this, it will only exacerbate the issue.
Remember that you can actually change with a 2 week grind. So if your guild is that dead set on you having X.
You will grind it out, and then you’ll be stuck in that covenant.
If they were unlocked. You could at least change for raids, then change for whatever else content that you do. This is a benefit you do not have if you have a 1-2 week time-gated system…
Same with conduits!
I don’t need to try it out on Live to see that i wouldn’t consider it fun.
I can see that now if Essences were locked. If talent choices were locked.
Same thing, you’ll see.
TONS. There are hundreds of thousands of players with your class, and they’ll be able to research and share their findings on Discord by trying all sorts of different things, and there’s no cooldown on sims, either - not that that in itself solves the entire problem of figuring out what’s best, of course. But knowledge sharing does!
It’ll be on Icy Veins, it’ll be on Bloodmallet, it’ll be on the word of your friends, it’ll be figured out for different covenants just as it is today with different specs. It’ll be worked out over time.
Maybe you like just going with what X site says and that’s it.
But some players like to research and actually try different combinations freely.
Covenants and conduits being on a 1-2 week lockdown will hinder that tremendously.
You’re also ignoring that you may want raw power for your main areas… raiding/arenas/m+ etc… but would want more fun abilities in the open world or while doing old raids or simply fooling around in bg’s.
That’s meta-slavery, yes. So I won’t.
But that doesn’t mean I need to exhaustively try everything myself. Nobody does that. We talk about it and share knowledge for different setups, and we try things that seem to make sense, make conclusions, and share them.
I’m disproving your point that if something can’t be easily changed, people will just take you because it can’t be easily changed. My point is that they saw I was playing a spec that isn’t very good for mythic+ and despite the key going really smoothly, I was still replaced based on my spec, even tho we could have done the follow up key with no issues.
So your solution is to add MORE meta on the top of it? In the form that cannot be easily “optimized” because of a bloody one-time arbitrary choice you’ve made not necessarily thinking about That Thing You’re Not Invited To?
How about being horrible, dirty meta slave? Because you seem to be more attached to the whole “meta” thing than people who just point out this is how it works!