People keep saying this when at the same time ignore that most people if not the vast majority do not look in to people they just see the score and goes from there.
Just because the information is there does not mean people actually use the information. There is also that it does not show all runs you do depending on server and other people in group and what key level you are doing.
Lommatik : Well at least in that case I could set Rio to refer to my paladin’s score, if I got it correctly. What I dislike so much about Rio is having more and more trouble to find groups and that so many people leave for staying would sound as a waste of their time. I am used to get a group in 10 minutes and never leave so it really changed the game to me recently, that’s why I wrote my post, looks like Rio is getting more and more mandatory turning wow into world of Rio. I do not mind about pushing my own keys but I cannot while people leave…
As Hinata said, one or two people playing badly can make him quit so he does not have to boost them, but say most of the group is acting correctly while one looks totally useless? I would say “let’s go for it as it’s part of the game” while someone would leave… For the same reasons I would destroy all the explosives orbs around so I can get what I was looking for : playing, rolling on a nice item and that’s pretty much it, mentally cursing that specific player and keeping on asking him to do this and that, though he might not play badly on purpose.
I guess being in a community where people do not leave mythic+ keys (timer or not) would probably help with my keys as I do not mind trying to upgrade them.
Havtor just said what I was thinking at the moment : people ask for scores in group descriptions, suggesting scores just sums it all, but maybe not everyone acts that way, I don’t know… Personally I thought it only displayed scores for that reason.
Lommatik : I hate that idea of having Rio helping me while it gets so much on my nerves, I get your point but I really hope I would be able to expect people to play “normally” (meaning “trying their best even if we die from time to time and end off timer”), trusting their ilvl and staying away from that evil addon…
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Well but thats more people problem than addon/system problem, isnt it?
Try to put something like “weekly” in description of group when u make one, those usualy means that even if it takes 3 hours u gotta finish it cuz u need the loot from it, unlike regular “push groups” where people leave as soon as they see its not gona be timed.
Well yes sort of. Because by that very notion of the information is there if you want it but most people do not get the information is why armory is not used it much it is out of game.
I could even extrapolate this to why use addons you have all the information you need in game already.
The there is tons of infromation if you look for it idea just does not work as it simply is not true for most people. Because the whole point of raider io score is so you do not need to leave the game to look someone up fast and easy.
Personally i just fine the whole argument useless as it defeates the purpose of the addon in the first place if you have to leave the game to look someone up.
One thing that helps me with rio frustration is looking at the ilvls higher keys drop. They’re a clue for how dedicated players they’re meant for.
If a M+ gives me gear that’s on par with heroic raid gear, I should expect to put in as much effort as a heroic raid requires. If it gives mythic raid level gear, I should expect to put in mythic raider effort. c:
Otherwise, no one would raid if it was easier to just get the same or better gear from M+.
I have to use rio because it’s my only defense against the endless leavers, sadly. I don’t care about the score itself, I search the player and see if they continuously leave keys. :< So many people lie to my face about how they’re okay with a chill group. They join my party that’s literally titled “chill group probably won’t time it”, pretend to be friendly… only to ninjapull, refuse to interrupt, die to easy mechanics and leave the party immediately. I’m sick of it. Until 9/10 players stop doing that to my chill keys, I’m looking up everyone’s rio to see if they’re a leaver.
Sorry not sorry, be better as a community so these addons aren’t needed. Be honest about what you expect, stop lying just to get into parties, and respect people’s time. My rio score is terribad and I still need the addon and think it’s useful, even though I’m in the “trash score” boat myself. That says enough about the state the pug community is in. This is directed at everyone who pugs, you all know that the majority of you act really entitled and gross when you get invited to someone’s party.
While that all is true, and people rarely swap to actual rio page to check people, it is there if u want to use it, unless armory which shows only your highest run (afaik)
Also, for most people rio+runs finished in bracket, which are shown in game, is most important part. Ofc u can have rach dungeon finished on 19 and then done 150 dungeons on 15, and person inviting you have no idea if u did 150 dungeons on 15 or 19 as they are same bracket( without looking at site) but still, number of dungeons+actual score is more than enough to form group, and its way beter indicator than ilvl.
Oh yeah it is way better then ilvl but just do not present Rio as more then it actually is most people are not looking up each player they get in the queue and do a indept study of each and every person. They see score at best look at how many dungeons (a number i have seen be wrong on many people actually if you look in to it)
It is just that the moment someone needs to leave for a web page to look someone up people do not want to do that.
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Stop being so clueless. Everybody has gear now, the game throws it at you. rio gives an indication of what people can do with that gear. Why can an equally geared amazing player do 6/7 levels higher than me on a key?
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Roi only point your time and key lvl.
Noone knows whats happening in the current dungeon.
So its far too imperfect “system”. People with high score can be garbage, and vice versa. Met both kind of it.
Had a 2.6~ paladin that taunted one of the obelisk guys and then whined at me when he died because he taunted it. He was also decked out with corruptions and did less damage than my paladin that barely have any corruptions.
As usual : If raiderio didn’t existed or was removed, then the “new addon” would be wayyy worse, parties would take longer times to take. It needs improvements, not a delete.
The tool is never an issue, the user is.
The tankbuster get often ping-ponged because the tank gets a debuff that gives the tank more damage. So it is very common to taunt it after spirit breaker. It works the same as the backhand (the cast after barrel through) on 3rd boss Kings Rest.
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Dude, I’m armor capped as a druid when I’m tanking that one + barkskin + can get 64% of my 1.1 million hp back in 2 button presses. It’s not going to kill me even without a healer.
It is just one of those things probably did not communicated beforehand. Don’t “dude” me for being the messenger of the answer you did not want to hear. Even we have ping ponged it with our druid tank.
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Or people could just not taunt mobs and then whine when they die because they taunted.
Or pull because they stood too far to the left and then blame the hunter’s pet which doesn’t exist because they’re currently in MM spec.
Or you are a flexible teamplayer and taunt back.
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No. If you taunt a mob off me just for no reason, you’re going to tank it and you will like it.
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You sound like an awesome player to play together with 
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