World of warcraft a.k.a. Pay To Win

Kind of. But there is a diferance if p2w mechanic is part of the game like token or illegal exploit like gold sellers.

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You know you have no argument when you have to go to ridiculous extremes to make a comparison.

Boosting in a game, not an illegal activity. Will not land you in jail.

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It’s not such a stupid comparison really.

Should drugs be illegal? Trillions spent on enforcement, lives spent in prison and attempted enforcement has not even dented the behaviour. Make it legal and tax it, save all that money and all that prison time etc etc.

It’s sort of what Blizz has done here, RMT was happening, where there is a demand, there will always be a supply, so why not just take a cut.

Blizz have made a pragmatic decision here. Wow hasn’t become p2w because of it, its just more in the open now and its the buzzword of the day for people like the OP.

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We will just have to agree to differ.

It’s a trade to me. Like any other, someone’s time and skill for your gold.

It’s never been against the rules. And it’s certainly not a crime.

This is such a dishonest argument and very fallacious logic which opens a gate to all sorts of absurd conclusions such as murder is not murder if you don’t believe it was murder :sweat_smile:

It’s up to facts whether the given game is P2W or not, and facts are not determined by your mindset and subjective opinion.

The fact is that WoW allows people to funnel real money into the game to obtain pretty much anything (gear, gold, achievements, mounts, any boss kills including Mythic, etc.) which means it’s a fully P2W game.

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And your opinion is a “fact” right? :man_facepalming:

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Selling gold and boosting for money is illegal activity and blizzard made it legal by selling gold themselves.

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And no one said otherwise. RMT is against the rules.

Boosting is not.

Except it’s pay thousands 2 win this 6 months/patch

Great p2w game, amazing.

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In this thread, people defending boosting by comparing it to RMT boosting of old. :man_shrugging:

Nobody(at least as much as I have seen) is defending boosting.
People are just arguing on what is and whats not P2W.

My bad, justifying*.

We all know it’s P2W, it’s just you can’t get through the impenetrable wall of WoW not having clearly defined win conditions so the ol’ “but what do u win xd” becomes irrefutable

What Blizzard allows is not my opinion but a fact so you can go troll somewhere else.

That’s not entirely true since boosting is allowing people to exploit in-game systems such as ranking systems and game exploiting to gain unearned benefits isn’t allowed.

It’s the same level of the bad argument you were making during the Multiboxing argument where you tried to justify and rationalize clearly a bad thing.

I have never defended or justified multiboxing. People just make ridiculous presumptions when I explain that Blizzard allows something and quote their rules.

Seems you are the one with bad arguments.

But being the better player means you could win those matches without the better gear, so no you haven’t won anything by boosting

I didnt experience people paying for boosts until atleast legion. Also ever since the introduction of the token advertisements for boosts has increased by one trillion %

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When people argued why multi-boxing is bad you countersued that it’s fine because Blizzard says it’s fine therefore you not only defended but also justified why multi-boxing is fine. Doing dishonest acrobatics using semantics won’t change the fact that you counterargued and justified the existence of automated multiboxing.

And no my argument isn’t bad, because I explained step by step why boosting breaks the rules of in-game systems but since you omitted that part then I guess you failed to produce any valid counterargument to defend your broken point of view.

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People openly advertised in trade and on forums long before the token came along. Prices were also a lot lower then.

I particularly loved having sort out a dispute between the boosting guild on our realm and one of our guild members bailing out on them.

I never argued it was fine. I have only ever explained Blizzard’s stance on it and why they believed that multiboxing was fine.

I linked the FAQs and posts by blues explaining their stance regarding multiboxxing.

Do stop making silly presumptions and at this point making up lies. Your dishonesty is getting personal.