WoW Classic 20th Anniversary Realms Information -- Updated 18 Nov

Who tf is talking about Vanilla here? This is NOT Vanilla, this is NOT #NoChanges. The anniversary servers are NOT FOR YOU.

Everyone complaining about Dual Spec is nothing but a troll or a selfish idiot who doesn’t care about other players but is the first to whine when there’s no healer or tank available. And those comparing these changes to Retail have no clue anyway.

Honestly, what’s the deal? Just go play on a server that offers what you want. People have been asking for Dual Spec since at least Phase 4, if not earlier.

More players will heal, tank, and play PvP because now they finally can without having to farm tons of gold all the time.

Instant Mail and especially Dual Spec are truly wonderful changes, so thank you, Blizzard! Buff/debuff limits still feel a bit questionable, as I’m worried raid bosses could become even easier than they already are, but I trust you’ll find a solution for that too.

Keep up the great work!

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Remove World Buffs!!! JUST remove World Buffs. A simple way to improve Classic. Why, restarting WoW Classic for the fifth time, can’t you understand this? (Although Blizzard in 2007 before that understood this in TBC and removed them). Ok. Of course, someone can’t just refuse World Buffs. This is a certain part of the game. There are pumpers who want to understand what their class is capable of at maximum power. (Warriors, Mages, Warlocks, Rogues) Yes, I see there are ways to save World Buffs - Chronoboon Displacer. There is also information that you want to avoid problems with losing World Buffs after death and introduce some kind of item. But maybe then you will introduce an incentive for those who decided to play without these World Buffs? Some kind of hard mode, in which you can really “feel the Spirit of Classic”. Someone will say: “It is impossible to complete this without World Buffs.” I played with a person who did not believe in this and wanted to disprove it. It is possible. You can kill both Kelthuzad and the Four Horsemen. Unfortunately, he will not be immortalized in wowlogs.
Maybe at the start without Loot it is problematic. But then why not give the players a choice.
And as an incentive, let the double reward act. I think it is quite good.
You have already killed the GDKP. Are you going to kill the opportunity to go for the faction for those who do not have time. (Although you can simply give the opportunity to play for both factions) So kill the World Buffs!!! This is the very improvement that will really bring the Spirit of Classic. Which you talk about so often.

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23:00 CET…

Why you gotta be like that? Damn…

Progressing Hardcore to TBC isnt all about end game, theres plenty of low level changes that players find fun in TBC such as Blood elfs and more balanced levelling which freshens up the hardcore space after a year of normal era hardcore. I for one would love to play hardcore as a blood elf.

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True. Since I’m not a wower, just decided to play for a while recently, so I don’t know about WoW “traditions” or so. So, for me it seems absolutely wild that there are time locked content and behind such a large time. Also, their wording like “there are people who don’t want to level up quickly, so we’ll limit the content for everyone for a year” is really weird from my perspective.
Clarification: for example, dungeons only once per day is alright, I don’t see it as bad. Having no limit to dungeons per day is also ok imo, both are ok. But having whole raids locked out for months is not ok.

i think it should be possible but first you will move your character to normal new classic fresh server from hardcore server as is said above and then probably move it to tbc when it launches or comes.

3 days before release they stab us in the back. The ultimate betrayal

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How will the loot table be? Will we get the same as in 2019 with HoJ dropping from Angerforge until phase 4 for example?

but I do wonder with the updated ranking system how long it actually takes

8 weeks. ~33k honor first week, ~110k 2nd, ~256k 3rd, ~419k 4th and 500k for the rest. depending on queue times, wins vs. losses and therefore overall honor per hour it can take you a few hours per week to be fully capped
and considering AV is going to release together with the pvp system in p2, you don’t even have to pvp for it :smiley:

And they’ve totally ignored us… not even an acknowledgement, not even a “hang tight and we’ll see”, we might as well have never even posted. Sad to see even that gnome on the US forums seems to have given up hope too. It really bites

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What Betrayal? They never promised you anything.

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So NA gets it at noon and europe is allowed to enter at 23.00 at night? So why do we get this 2nd hand citizen treatement? Do we pay a different ammount as subscription? I think not, so why do we get the short end???

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It drops a the same time all over the world :person_facepalming: NA noon is our 11 pm and in Australia it’ll be some other time of day - Early morning I suppose, but someone else please do the maths.

EDIT
I done it:
Nov 21st 2 pm PST - launch in US
is:
Nov 21st 23 pm server time for EU servers
and:
Nov 22nd 9 am in Canberra, Australia.

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And the US forum even have this information for us:

Time Zone Location Date Time
HST Hilo November 21 12:00 Noon
AKST Anchorage November 21 1:00 p.m.
PST San Francisco November 21 2:00 p.m.
MST Phoenix November 21 3:00 p.m.
CST Houston November 21 4:00 p.m.
CST Mexico City November 21 4:00 p.m.
EST Atlanta November 21 5:00 p.m.
EST Montreal November 21 5:00 p.m.
COT Bogotá November 21 5:00 p.m.
AST Halifax November 21 6:00 p.m.
NST St. John’s, NL November 21 6:30 p.m.
BRT São Paulo November 21 7:00 p.m.
ART Buenos Aires November 21 7:00 p.m.
AWST Perth November 22 6:00 a.m.
ACST Alice Springs November 22 7:30 a.m.
AEST Brisbane November 22 8:00 a.m.
ACDT Adelaide November 22 8:30 a.m.
AEDT Sydney November 22 9:00 a.m.
VUT Port Vila November 22 9:00 a.m.
AZDT Auckland November 22 11:00 a.m.

You do very well know where the gold is coming from. And your attitude on this is just what ruins era economies. You are part of the problem. Don’t act naive. You get paid by gold buyers you profit from it, you profit from bot using and real time money. If I’d run Blizzard I’d ban everyone who ever traded larger amounts out of every day trading with gold buyers AND sellers.

Please grant Alliance rend buff.

Its almost 5am just got up to create my character and Horde is locked!

You are about to get a lot of disappointed customers unless you ease up on server balance.

What`s the plan for the game once it reaches TBC and goes through all the phases ? Does it gets locked in to TBC (like ERA is with Vanilla) ? Does it move forward to WotLK after a while ?
I would like to have some info before sinking time in “Classic” 2.0

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If you want everything unlocked, retail is your bestie. Or Classic Cata for a less progressed server but also less QoL features.

To time gate content like they do on these Classic versions create a sense of old endgame content being current. As such those raids will have to be progressed, and will, at least to some degree, provide gear upgrades.

Often only the content with the highest reward will be considered “worth doing”. Everything else is for getting to max or storytime. This view formed gradually over expansions till catch-up gear made it a fully fledged game mechanic that every new raid tier/season became a gear reset of sorts.

So basically the reason to play on this new Classic is to escape the retail with all its complexity and yet hyperfocus on a very small part of the vast game it’s become.

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