Likewise…
But I’m not whinging about the game, am I? So you’re kind of…not right there.
That is what I essentially said in another post, yes. It is more common in human nature to complain about what we don’t like, than to praise what we do like. That I agree with, because I said the same thing elsewhere on this forum.
Yes, I agree. Streamers are a problem and do not Create Content in game, and Min-Maxxers I have a healthy disdain for, and always have since playing RPG’s since 34 years ago. A good player makes the character they want and goes ahead with it. A Poor player deliberately weighs up the particular advantages and doesn’t make a character based on what they want to play, but based on maths. They reduce it to number crunching to get a particular benefit and will chop and change characters with race changes and faction changes to make the numbers fit.
In actual RPG’s, not just online RPG’s this is regarded as extremely poor gameplay. If I wanted to crunch numbers to get the best outcome whilst not caring about an actual character I would go away and fill in my tax returns.
I think it is, or perhaps, I’ll rephrase that in a moment, but firstly to address the ‘Asking for more people to quit’ comment, I think you’ll see that I was almost verbatim quoting the previous poster who stated that anyone who -was- actually still playing had no self respect. Which is kind of a dig at those who actually are having fun, and saying they are stupid for having fun. Which is in itself a kind of playground mentality.
As to it being a generational issue, I think to an extent it kind of is, however it is not necessarily just down to age, but how different generations see games. A lot of people who appreciate RPG aspects of the games will have come to the game from -actual- RPG’s, so not on the computer at all, and so will have the attitude of "I want to play something that looks fun, I don’t care if it isn’t ‘Best in Spec’ at everything, because then you are not playing the game, you are letting the game play you, which is pretty bizarre. Then you have a generation who will not have played original RPG’s, but their sole experience is playing Computer RPG’s or MMORPG’s. It is a different mentality, because there is this whole rubbish idea that you have to insert mathematics into what you play, rather than playing what you want to play. To give anecdotal evidence, I’ve always played Marksman Hunter. I’ve played it when it was Ok, when it was amazing in performance, and when it was rubbish, and now it’s in a pretty happy place. Because I like the consistency of the character. Because I am of a generation that played RPG’s which means you get the best out of your character, you don’t just chop and change.
Contrast that with certain raiding guilds where there is no attention paid to character, you just listen to streamers, read Icy Veins or whatever (Which can be useful guides admittedly) and go “Right, I’m going to race change to X Faction, so I can play a Y and get their Min-Max bonuses”.
That isn’t a mindset I grew up with, because as I say, at that point are you really playing the game? Would it matter to you if it was just a set of numbers coming up on the screen? Do you actually care about playing a character at all?
Well…I mean…you can just look at this forum and see the same sort of complaints you always saw since the start. Just the software de jour to decide who is a worthy PvE’er to have on your team changes every now and then, as the game mechanics do. These days it’s RiO that everyone talks about, few years time, it will be something else. The software changes, but the bizarre attitude of stripping away fun in favour of mathematics has never changed.
RP goes in an almost bizarrely inverse dip, I’ve found, You’ll find loads of furious PvP and PvE action at the start of an expansion, then it will lull, whereas the opposite happens on the RP scene as people are furiously levelling characters and doing new content, so aren’t actually ‘around’ as much to RP, after which it lulls, and they are again.
I’ve actually seen a slight increase in RP numbers on Argent Dawn lately on both factions, but that might be just the circles we move in, and happenstance.
However…
YAAAAAAAAAS! I has such Ideas as to how they could be so cool.
Shut up and take my money!
Nowadays, I have literal piles of RPG related stuff. Just in terms of pure books, I have more than 150 of those, spanning several different systems, novels, technical manuals, rule books, adventures, source books, etc.
