Both things can be true, but if they are not mutually exclusive then its not a “subjective opinion” anymore is it?
I said that if you are in a party you kill things faster. You can take secconds or days to form that party. You wont change that fact that once you find said tank, you can pull the while Delve, AoE everything down and finish it in 2 minutes.
Some content you CANNOT do unless you are in a party. Excluding Solo Players. That is true.
But there is not a single content that dosent allow you to form a party. With maybe 1 or 2 exceptions in the 20 year history of wow (Mage tower for example).
That is also true. And that already should make you “suspicious” of all this Solo gameplay.
And it still dosent change the fact that if you could take a tank/healer and do the mage tower, the encounter would far easier than doing it Solo.
For the record, I also think it was a mistake. But the fact is that they did not.
I would go even further. BECAUSE wow is made to be easier to do in a party by design… that is the #1 reason to limit Delves to Solo only.
Dont come here with empty bla… bla… dont make me go to Raider IO, get you some graphs and compare M+ seasons.
Im am sure you already know where this will end. And for the record, data shows that this season (S2 TWW) is coming out to be one of the best ones in participation. On par with DF S3… so…
Dont make up data. Atleast link some Raider IO graphs. Because unlike Delves, we DO have API parses for M+ and Raids.
I care because Delves dont exist in isolation. You know that, I know that. And its not just Delves/M+. Raid is also in the formula… look up the drama with the promissed bullions and their sudden elimination of the patch cycle…
That affects Delvers as well, and are complaining just as M+ players are. So in that aspect we are in the same boat, and rightfully so… because we ARE in the same boat… As long as we share gear.
First 2 bosses or Priory dont feel like “bosses”? Are you serious???
If you stoped being a boosted snowflake maybe you would appreciate them a bit more. ESPECIALLY if you are a healer (2nd boss) or tank (1st boss)…
I swear I cannot take you seriously. You are a person that gets boosted by your BF. Of course you are bored!..
If I had a BF that timed me all +15s in 1 afternoon then yeah sure… I would also be done you know… But unless you are “royalty” like you, then you have to progress through all that. And that takes more than just a couple of weeks. Some take the whole season…
That is something else than what you’re claiming now.
Well, I don’t agree that’s the number 1 reason, but we can at least agree that yes, they should be solo only.
Read the numbers more closely. Participation PERCENTAGE is up. Not the raw number of people doing M+. The raw numbers are down (but to be clear: M+ is doing fine).
Only those who care too much are in the same boat. Which I no longer do. If I did, I wouldn’t have taken a break one month into a new season.
But honestly; even before that I never cared about the bullion stuff. Sure, it was nice in DF s4, but meh… I can live without it (like I did in SL s4 because ‘people like me’ were not worthy enough to even get bullion).
You are arguing semantics now. Faster == more efficient. And I did not want to list out all the things again. I want to keep my posts short…
Common Tah. All I said is that once you are in a party, you have more advantages in general. Gameplay wise ONLY. Of course if said party members are Jerks or you take too long to make the party, then its not such an advantage.
But Blizzard dosent make the game with “jerks” in mind. It makes them assuming some gameplay mechanics and other “objective” things. Like class balance, dungeons, bosses, ect…
Trends are the same as in DF. And we got a key level squish taking out a chunk of the playerbase out of that statistic. Its totally normal that as an expansion gets old less and less players play. In general. Not just M+. Like you. You got sick of caves and stopped playing.
But that is FAR from dead. Or dying. And next time you respond, put some numbers yourself please.
Here is the catch. If you want respect for the gameplay choices you pick, you also have to give it back to those that choose some other gameplay choice. And a compromise must be reached. That compromise has to be “good enough, but not perfect” for all parties.
And if a compromise cannot be reached then divorce is the only option left. But for now, we are all “married” together.
Tell me how I got boosted in that dungeon? Just tell me how I’m getting boosted by playing with one person in pugs as healer? Yeah I guess not healing a tank is getting boosted? If I want to get boosted I can afk as dps. In +13 as he will get invited easily. Common sense huh? I also play D tier healer along with holy priest as I like the challenge, yet you play two button afk rshaman( I can’t even play that without falling asleep) with grey damage parses from all season 1. (Wall of text how m+ parses don’t mean anything inc) oh, btw, if I would want to get boosted as healer, I would totally play Rsham, the easiest afk healer by far.
I also take the key progression very seriously, you can see that clearly.
I love how this forum pushes the narrative that I’m getting boosted more than others just because I play with my husband. I even run with his alt sometimes(that he doesn’t know how to play)…so what? Am I boosting now? Go look at linapriest if you wish. Forum says: “Go play with friends.” Plays with friends: “You’re a boosted snowflake.” Lmao. Maybe you are boosted if you can’t even get 3k in premade. It is way easier to progress in the beginning of the season(you know it) than now, no one using defensives in low keys now, they don’t even kill the affix so +10 will feel harder than it should, the damage is horrible (I traveled when the season started so I progress slowly)
And you’re not even trying to understand what I’m saying in this topic. The first boss thematically looks like some random mob. Same with the second—literally feels like ToP trash reskinned. Bubbles also hurt, is he a boss now? Shows your iq right here
You sound jealous btw, maybe get good. Seem like you stalk him a lot as well, want an autograph? Or maybe a boost lmfao
Btw, it’s my husband, not a bf. Get your facts straight
In terms of pure gameplay, sure.
But for a person like myself there’s plenty of downsides which just doesn’t make that worth the hassle. That was my point.
I guess I was getting hung up on your statement ‘more relaxing’, because for me that really isn’t true.
‘the past’
I never said nor implied any such thing. In fact I said:
I just want to have fun. I don’t really care about anything else, if I’m honest.
I don’t actively want others to not have fun, but I will put my own fun first. Always.
And there’s nothing wrong with that.
The vast majority play solo or with a friends these days. Gaming habits changed, people want smaller content. Wow has changed and given more solo or small content and its working.
And that is why you are such a dumb person when it comes to parses.
I did not play in S1 and I took a break. In addition, I choose to play Farseer which is the least performant, but much more fun spec to play. You could have seen that as well if you had the 2 neurons required to understand WLogs.
How about you get the logs of Laren, the best RShaman in the world, who also plays Farseer. That guy is doing +18s and also has green/blue parses. Just because he prefers to not play Totemic.
But hey… be my guest. Keep digging yourself in the stupidity which are WLogs.
That is total BS. First you post with some Classic WoW alt. And second, in past post its always “by BF sais this”. By “BF sais that”…
And YOU said that your “gigachad BF tank” takes you to do keys. YES you can absolutely get boosted in a key as a healer in Priory if your 3500 rio BF tank does all the hard work.
My IQ? How about you learn how to write first before acusing others OK?
Your problem is how those bosses look like.
You wrote this:
How they feel. With means how you play them.
I am not the one that wrote on a whole chain of posts all about how gigachad your… husband… is. And how he carries you through dungeons and how he supports SoloQ.
Absolutely. You are 100% right. But so am I. So no need to “agree to disagree”. We can both agree. And next time I will be more precise when I say “relaxing”.
MY point is that from a gameplay perspective, WoW is designed as a multi-player game. Just by the fact that tanks and healers exist. And DDs do not have any skills to replace them. So of course, if you party up with different rolls everything gets easier. Its how WoW is made.
And to be clear, that dosent mean Solo play is impossible. Or that it should not exist. All I wanted to say from the beginning is that (from a gameplay perspective only) its difficult to make a satisfactory Solo experience in a game that is designed from the start as a multiplayer game.
Im not in the mood to present data once again. But numbers in TWW match those of DF. So… its doing just fine.
Absolutely. YOU pay subscription for your fun. Not for the fun of others, and you are not a charity.
But that still dosent change the fact that wow cannot be isolated just for you. Others exist inside this game as well, because its an MMO. Does that change the way you should play? NOPE. But when there is a sensible explanation as to why the things that annoy you exist, they become more tolerable. IMO.
I find these claims frustrating. Because that data dosent exist. But I actually do check every once in a while how many people are in the open world doing “things”. And what I see is daunting. There is nobody out there !
Even in the Undercity quest hub. First weeks were really cool. Lots of people, lots of things.
Now? I find it hard to find someone else doing things. People got their rewards and moved on. Question is: Moved on WHERE? And what I see is 20 people on the summoning stone of DFC on a Tuesday morning at 10am. Or tons of people just chilling in Donorgal. Waiting for a quew I presume.
I didn’t write that at all, people just assume I get carried and wrote that themselves. People brThere is no problem writing from a classic alt, I don’t owe you, and you literally know my character, just like everyone else. Own it up, if I would want to get boosted I would already be done in +13 on some Ret pala or other dps class. You don’t own the fact that people who progress keys now are also terrible as well (which is true) ans it makes it harder for a healer. You are dishonest person with child’s ego.
Own it up, I progress keys slowly, calling it BS while all the info is at raider io lmfao.
I don’t write properly in English yeah, this is European forum, some people don’t speak perfectly in English. But it shows what kind of person you are to reply in a way you did to my critique on bosses design. And again, a lot of mobs are hard to heal but they aren’t bosses. Own it up. You are not even allowed to reply the way you did by the forum rules.
I bet you wouldn’t be that angry at random people if you wouldn’t have issues. Either in life, or fragile ego in game. (I understand that as you play the easiest healer and having troubles with it). You also play this EASY game for many years and can’t even get a proper rating. I’m sorry for you.
You should go be with your kids and wife, or get some eating, instead of coping on forums all day. Gonna ignore you poor guy
Im not the one that checks up peoples Logs to justify every single comment you put on these forums.
Really? Then I am sorry for you too.
Own it up. I guess. All the info is at Raider IO lmfao.
When you resort to insults like these. It sort of… proves that you are the one with problems. Not me.
Good luck with your… slow… key progress. I guess your husband cant be with you 100% of the time and you have to wait for him to gain progress (as I can clearly see in Raider IO). Since you cant gain it yourself.
Optimal to who? You need to run t11 delves to get the gilded crests and you do get them at a fast enough pace to use them, you say 30 a week is too slow but 30 a week is 1 enchanted gilded crest at the same rate as you get sparks to craft gear with, thats a piece of deterministic 675 gear every 2 weeks, imo better then what even the vaults slot machine of 3 hero 1 items offer.
Crest conversions up have also been nerfed so you can now much more easily upgrade up.
You are definitely getting value out of t11.
The only thing I will agree with is that unless you are going for the gilded crest you dont need to go higher then t7 but if you do the issue isnt that delves dont offer enough, its that you are choosing to not engage with it optimally.
S2 delve only gear cap is so much higher then it was in S1 its honestly disgusting to look back at S1
I stopped playing Evoker, you are so annoying it’s insane. I’m playing holy priest on his alt he doesn’t know how to play Aren’t you playing in premade? Go pug alone. Also, I’m not trying to get rating, but you do. Past season you didn’t even reach 3k. Now your rating is just a bit over 3k so deep into season. It’s too bad rating for such a big mouth. But I forgot that good players don’t act like you do.
“I don’t like how the bosses feel, the content is bad”
“You are boosted snowflake by you bf (wall of
text)” lmao
So do you care, or you dont care about rating? You cant seriously say that “you dont play for rating” but then use it to justify how awesome you are. Or… how bad other people are.
Also, who cares about my rating in S1? I stoped playing. You were the one that said that I should spend more time with my kids right? Make up your mind.
I dont judge others rating. Unless, like you, they judge other people. You walk in here giving lessons to people justifying how “good you are” and how “orange” your parses are.
And when I call you out about it, you answer to me with this:
You cant get more hypocritical than this. Really… So you “progress” slowly. And I somehow cant also “progress slowly” or what? The difference is that I am not in the forums telling people how EZ priory is.
Its true.
You walk in here saying how OMG EZ some Priory bosses are… based on what? On how much rating you have? How good you are? GREAT… But you dont care about rating right?
And then, you correct yourself by saying that “its only the esthetics of the bosses”. And how this is “EU international forum”. No its not. This is GB forums, ENGLISH forums. And I at-least am an adult, and when I make mistakes and people call me out I say sorry.
Also, hilarious to tell me that RShaman is the EZ class. OK. As long as you don’t have to Kick, Stun, Purge, Hex or buff players. And DPS at the same time. And if you think its as easy as just spamming “Chain Heal”. Then be my guest. Try it. And then tell me how long you take to go OOM.
Instead you come here with a holy priest “hard core” mentality where the only job you have is heal people and cast PI when your husband sais so. OK. Whatever…
You did quote the last parragraph. So even that I doubt.
Learn to write before asking people to read.
That right there means: There are 2 bosses in priory that are not bosses. They feel more like trash packs or something else. So boring.
If you meant something else, instead of all those insults you could simply say what you really wanted to say. Then I say sorry I misinterpreted you and assumed untrue things about you, and we can walk away no problem.
But you chose to look at my parses, demean my rio from S1 and S2 and say I play the EZ class. OK.
Blizzard have said it themselves, they will be putting out more solo and smaller content as that what people want is enough by itself. The fact that I play alone and have done for 10 years and haven’t set foot in a normal raid or above in 5 years to get gear and I have Mythic level gear soling says it all.
Gaming habits have changed Dragonflight was their best retention in year because they moved their focus from Raiding and M+.
Next step will be using your alts in full HCs and raiding runs, its coming.