WoW - pay to win like never before

so in 1 week you can buy the enchant the guy with real money(token) got in first day and now he allready climb the pvp ladder and you are forever stuck in 1500 with rest of the noobs that didnt donated?

thats wow now xD

pay to win.

dont pay=get stuck in no donator bracket (1500).

and im not even talking about raiding,because if you not full equipped first week you are just benched for the guy that donated 3 tokens and got full sophic enchant,mainstat gem rank 3,sockets/other enchants.

the start of expac is where you see more the pay to win,because whoever has $$$$ climbs real fast and easy and then the rest of the no donator lot struggling the rest of season xD.

Ok so let’s get this p2w argument done once and forever. We both gonna level any class we want to lvl 70. You p2w as much as you want. I won’t pay anything and not buy a single enchant or gem. We both jump into solo shuffle and stream/record every single match.
If you end up higher than me (let’s say after a week or so?) I pay you what you p2w’d and the same amount on top. If you don’t end up higher than me, you have to admit it’s not p2w. How about that? :slight_smile:

The fact you think an overhyped/overpriced enchant is what wins PvP in arenas tells me all I need to know about your judgement. No one is stack in 1500 because they supposedly “didn’t donate” they are stuck there because they deserve it.

PVP gearing is easier than ever. There is miniscule to no gearing difference in PvP right now.

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i got 1800 in 10 games i start of expac just because i bought 500k gold recipes for helm vengenace and cc 5% boots xD and rekt everyone without them

im climbing on my alt now with only honor gear and im stuck in 1300.

also the recipes i bought for 500k are now 200 gold each (ofc the ladder is allready inflated) xD.

PAY TO WIN.

Well as I said earlier, I doubt this happened, unless you got lucky with placement games if MMR was all over the place. What’s your main? I got 1,8k in less than 10 solo shuffle games without buying anything from AH.

Well, that’s how it is if you are unlucky with placement games :wink:

So, let’s go for a new char? I told you the conditions. You can p2w as much as you want and if you end up higher than me in rating I pay you the money + the same amount on top as prize money. Let’s go?

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At this point you proved that you play another game if really think that ppl stuck because of donate. No, ppl stuck because they are bad. Also because of current shuffle mmr issues. But no. Shadowlands was paytowin for many PvP players. Now you need 3-4 hours to get ready for arena. That all. Ppl don’t get gladiator because they can’t farm 5k gold for boots and ppl who donated and bought them are holding them back… ok. You also couldn’t buy both helm and boots at day1. Sparks are timegated. You can play the game instead of sitting on forums so you can get that 5k gold on boots without donate. Also you can get better so cheap devotion lvl 2 that hitting for 10k instead of 11k lvl 3 that cost 100k won’t be a problem to play the game.

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you are contradicting yourself there xD

No, I am not? You take the bet or…?

you will allways lose vs a character with enchants,sockets,mainstat gem.

allways.

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No, I won’t and I am willing to back this fact up. Are you tho?

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Did you also donated for timegated sparks to get both helm and boots at day1?
Also did I donate, too, if I got 1800 on my monk without donate and farm (all my farm was gathering ores while waiting for ques)

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Assuming your fairy tale really happened, congrats on wasting gold. It’s true the fool and his gold part ways really fast it seems! :rofl:

Secondly, it can’t be you just didn’t have the necessary skills to climb with your alt since he is a different class right? It couldn’t be your main was stronger in arenas because of his class as well, eh? It must have been that enchant.!!! :clown_face:
Sorry, but no. You wasted money on an overhyped enchant which is cheap now because it’s revealed it is worthless.

And that’s IF your story is true in the first place.

Anyway… Let’s see a real example below. :point_down:t4:

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yes i put a player that plays same has you with those things and he will rekt you.

I believe we had 2 in the start, one from story and one was weekly, no? I might be wrong here tho, I always forget to p2w anyway…

You can play any fully geared char and I make a new one and then we grind solo shuffle for a week or something. Let’s see who ends up in higher rating?

you need 2 of the same xp players for that experience.

of the one with enchants,sockets,gems will win.

Wait wait wait… didn’t you just say this?!:

So suddenly xp matters more than gear?! Now that’s a turn! Nobody saw this coming!

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I can buy everything lvl 2 for cheap and be 1-2% weaker than donated char. It’s not win condition. If it’s what stop me from winning then I can find 1 evening to farm gold to get all enchants. But I don’t do it because difference doesn’t worth it at the moment. I’m not having any problems because of devotion rank2… all problems that I have are l2p issue and even billiards of gold won’t help me with then even for a bit. If they could - I would already farm them because it’s so easy now…

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yes you will allways lose vc a player that playes like you,but has enchant,socket,gems.

allways.

do i need to make a drawing on paint?

Well, this is also not true. But good luck finding someone on the exact same skill level as me. I wonder how you want to measure it. And it better be the EXACT SAME skill level :joy: