Well done Blizzard so now we have a 3rd spot already filled with Healer, Tank and Aug Evoker.
Lets not forget the almighty mages and Shadow priests (look at io website), So now we have 2 DPS spots with about 20 other DPS classes who just get overlooked because of the above.
So what’s happening with all the other DPS specs feels like people are super picky when choosing classes for keys, I think there needs to be limitations or nerf the classes that are complimented too well by Aug Evokers.
Please balance the classes so ALL dps classes are viable and are complimented well with a Aug Evoker if you are basically going to make it a “required” class to bring into higher keys and before people say “It’s not Blizzard making these rules it’s the community”
We all know the community will ALWAYS flock to the most OP classes for keys because it,s the least path of resistance to the goal they want to reach and who dictates the power level of the classes… Thats correct Blizz do.
Its not a measurement but it shows the popularity of a “broken” spec as you will see a pattern of classes within the 1st 200 results or more which would indicate the playerbase at these high keys are only using certain classes because they are considered to be performing above all other classes.
Now I am 2.3k rated but this does not mean that this Attitude of picking only classes who are performing above others does not filter down to the lower keys because people look at these records and go “X class is busted” so we MUST have it in our 14 key, So you can see where this leads.
10 Brackenhide Hollow - AUG Evoker ONLY,
15 Halls Of Infusion - Fire Mage ONLY
Exactly. last week it was only slightly higher because good synergy was found.
and you don’t see a lot of classes there because they’re just rubbish and have been completely ruined.
examples: prot pala, rets, warriors, etc.
I dunno, I +2 timed loads of dungeons in the range of +16 +17 full of warriors and rogues. No SP, sometimes not even hero/BL. I don’t care if you think those ranges are low, just like mythic raiding I don’t torture myself with anything over +20 in a pug. I got my KSM the third week of the season, that’s enough for me.
People tend to forget that this season is super forgiving, at least until +20.
Which is the stupidest and ignorant take you could make especially because Aug is not gonna carry you, given the dps is totally dependant on the rest of the group.
So it has an obvious place in high keys but if the group sucks you are basically filling a spot with a spec that will automatically perform badly.
Aug is as strong as the strongest specs in the meta are, so is not really augs fault, especially if there are clown is 16 asking for aug and then doing 50k overall.
Technialy ? Ye augument can carry group providing that tank healer are not completly usless.
Yes dungeon will take forever to complete but you wont die and you will clear IT because of defensive / healing buffs
The difference is massive. Any tank with augument BUFF is effectively almost immortal IT seems people havent figurę out yet but they will that they can do nich bigger pulls now and survive
Provided tank and healer are not completely useless and you have 2 trash dps you might as well take a non aug dps.
You dont need the evo survivability in low keys to the point that you want aug so much.
The survivability provided for sure is not enough to carry bad groups even in low keys.
This seems to be like adding a turd to a cesspit, the pugging scene was already so toxic will this be even noticed?
There does seem to be room in the game for a style of dungeoneering that is Free-for-All, no roles at all just five players running this content together. The mechanics would have to centre around personal responsibity, so needing to avoid, interupt or CC attacks aimed at you personally.
Thats being unfair on the fact the demand for support to be added in WoW has existed since vanilla.
Yes its broken OP. But its tripling the population in runs against even the other broken speccs.
Support is popular. Because players have waited 2 decades for its arrival. The fact its broken leans into this agreed but theres defintly been a huge audience who have wanted support for years prior its current iteration!
Because its dropped before adding offical systems for it. With a proper fourth role put in with options alike other roles, it wont be near this bad.
Just because players have waited 2 decades for a support role I didnt say it was bad per-se but just poorly implemented which has led to the landslide of popularity towards it and which has inherently made it broken and caused this shift of M+ Meta.
Now why did Blizzard feel this was the right time for a Support role with a class that is new to this expansion, Why didn’t they use a already existing class that they have had years of experience with ie… a Shaman for example or even update Discipline Priests to work more as a support healer with the way they already heal is very similar to the Aug Evoker anyway in a sense, I feel that they are losing subs and this was a half assed attempt to recoup some losses and generate interest.
It was poorly implemented. It needed a support role icon. But that wont change the fact its a singular mandatory specc til mores added.
This is just the teething problems that come with adding things into a already existing game.
Augs fine its absolutely fine, we had a vacency for a 3rd specc, that we were sorely missing, and it filled that. This would have happened regardless of the class chosen to do it with.
Its a new role. Being tested, hiccups are gonna exist better now then day 1 season 3 they wanted to measure the success of the specc before investing.
My point was more that this can’t make he PUG scene any worse because it’s already a cesspit.
In Guilds or Communities players will still choose to play what they to play. There aren’t really any forced roles or specs (outside the standard 1 tank, 1 healer and 3 dps).
In the PUG scene it’s just such a mess already that adding Aug won’t make it worse…
I play a Discipline Priest tbh I play most specs and classes over a almost 18 yrs of playing WoW, But what I am saying is why use a class which has not even been properly tested and balanced with it’s other specs without adding a new spec to the mix.
Hell even a DH has had more “player time” than evokers which means that the players are more likely to know what “feels” overtuned and needs balancing and can provide half decent feedback to blizz during testing.
So what you are saying here is that the success rates of the average pug group has fallen solely on whether or not they have an Aug Evoker, No all that’s happened is the goal posts have shifted so that 20 you could’nt do pre aug evoker now feels like a 18.
And because you play an evoker good chance;s are that you do not have the same struggles as another DPS class because you are a favored class atm.
I wonder how long before Evokers will get the "Are you playing Aug? " if not no invite.
