Then why you pay/play?
i dont play retail
Then why u cry about something, that has literally zero effect on you?
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maybe in your small brain u could consider the fact i would play retail if it becomes good? which isnt the case considering SL vendors?
All your posts were nothing but baseless cryings(naming/shaming, zero arguments), so i doubt u ever want to play retail, mr big brain.
if you cant see the arguments in my “crying” doesnt mean there isnt
anyway u dont play pvp what are you doing here? got lost?
So once again, you have to PvE in order to do PvP >_>
I hate you Blizzard, seriously at this point I actually do hate you. You have no idea what you are doing, none what so ever.
The most awful part of all of this is the fact that it’s actually an improvement over what we have today.
And yet, despite this, it’s still hilariously awful.
Let me be as forthcoming as I can: This is a joke. It’s an insult to the PvP community. You promised you were going to make things better and we looked toward you with renewed hope, and then you slapped us again.
How hard is it to just provide items that are useful for doing PvP? Like… for real? As a 12/12M raider, I promise I won’t get mad if they got a good set of mythic level raiding gear within 10 weeks for being at 2.2k. That seems fair to me. This is not that. And don’t even get me started on the stat combos. Everybody knows Versatility is almost always a BiS stat so why is it so bloody rare?!
For context, it’s more than enough Honour for an entire set of PvP gear during the Mists of Pandaria expansion.
This is absolutely beyond the pale. There is no justifiable reason for these prices.
You are quite right. Although M+ is a fun challenge in and of itself, its reward structure is very, very lucrative in that it’s the only way to get high level items without running into lockouts.
But you can also form 5 man group and have 95%+ win rate in spammable random bgs and get full m0 gear 
Until other people start doing it and your w/l balances itself closer to 50% again.
It’s obvious PvP players are supposed to play PvE and I’m sure there will be something again making PvE players play some PvP. I don’t know why it’s so important.
I don’t play much PvP in this game, but I would if they just seperated everything: gear, racials, skill balance for PvE and PvP. It would solve this problem and many more.
I play retail, and i do play pvp sometimes? Atleast i comment somewhere which affects me.
BTW Classic PvP is the other way.
You’re a complete clown if you think a win rate of 95%+ is achievable.
I don’t know, does trolling make you feel better or what? 627 bgs for bg equipment is way too high and you spam in this thread yelling “hurr durr do M0”. Pathetic. Reported.
Meh w/e I as going to fully focus on PvE in SL anyway XDDD
The upgrade system isn’t finalised, the numbers/amount of honor or whatever for an upgrade isnt finalised. Its BETA.
Anyways, i honestly dont get the complaints about the PvP gear besides the stat weights.
UNRATED conquest gear, meaning gear ANYONE from 0-1400 rating can buy is 7 item levels higher than that of M+0.
The conquest PvP gear will obviously scale with rating. So if you are 2k rated i’d imagine every piece of gear you can buy/upgrade will be equivalent of +15s and HC raids.
As for the BG gear, Battleground gear, or blue PvP gear has ALWAYS been trash, complete garbage, since the dawn of PvP gearing, its always been complete trash, its just a tiny stepping stone for completely fresh toons to get a foot in the door, not to kit you out for competing for R1
To your suprise i had that kind of win rate playing solo during mop prepatch on shadow priest. Single flash heal healed me for half of health bar and i could walk with whole horde team of undergeared noobs on me through full twin peaks bg (i was farming its achievs) with flag and killing all of them few times in process.
Excuse me while I go invest 150 hours of BG time into my alt to have a tiny stepping stone for the actual gearing process.
You’re not meant to invest and upgrade everything.
In the past, you got your blue gear JUST to have Resilience at all. Then you as quicky went on to get Purple arena gear as you could.
There was just a blue post on WoWhead from Ion and they are thinking about adding a PvP stat.
Blue gear was never meant to be grinded. You just get it to be able to step foot in the arena, then you abandon it as fast as possible.
It’s not about what gear you’ll be using, it’s the fact that I could invest like 15 hours into M0 and sit with a full set, but meanwhile getting to roughly the same level in PvP requires 150 hours. Who’s to say that conquest won’t be any different at all?
IF they do go ahead and add a PvP stat, then that’s good and all is (kinda) well, but my current expectations are that they’ll just replace 1 stat with versatility on each piece of gear.