The level 60 bracket is full of non stop premades, you get stomped over and over, you accept it and move on. Then you make an alt and think, hey this might be fun in lower level BG’s! You think yeah there will be twinks but I will stand a small chance right? Then you run into premades, again.
I actually cannot believe that even low level BG’s have full teams of 39 twinks running BG’s and stomping as a premade. You stand absolutely no chance of winning.
The lads in the last BG I played with a literally logging off its that pathetic. Blizzard, its time to seperate premades and solo players, because currently, pvp is unplayable for the solo player.
This is level 39, there is no AV. Were it level 60, the point still stands, you should not be forced to play 1 BG if your a solo player. Additionally, you can stop with the no changes, there have been changes, therefore there can be more. If you think players quitting is healthy for the game you have some thinking to do.
That argument can be used for litterally anything. And you just made my point. We can never add changes because any unrelated change will be used as an argument to add more changes.
Classic is a recreation of the Vanilla gameplay systems.
And you are even asking for a change that have never existed in this game, ever.
You have to adapt. Don’t expect a recreation of a game to adapt to you. That’s absurd.
Join a group. Play together.
Problem solved.
If people like Classic, great. If they don’t and they quit, doesn’t matter. You either like 2006 World of Warcraft gameplay systems or you don’t.
You can use the word recreation to argue the point of no changes as much as you want, they have made changes, its no longer a re-creation. See how that works?
I played vanilla, I don’t remember mages boosting PvE content, raid players just raid logging and pvpers spamming premades.
You either like classic gameplay or you do not, this was never classic gameplay.
Classic is not a recreation of some arbitrary player behaviour from 14y ago. Its an actual recreation of the gameplay systems, as in the database. It’s a recreation based on patch 1.12.1 with progressive content on a modern client.
The gameplay system in question, the queue, is an accurate recreation. Its working as designed and intended where groups and solo players share the same queue. No one is exploiting anything or circumventing anything. People may play the game differently and join more groups today, but that’s their choice.
YOU have to adapt. Don’t expect the game to adapt to you. That’s absurd because it’s a recreation of a game.
We are talking about the WSG/AB queue system. This gameplay system have not changed. It’s and authentic and historical recreation of the Vanilla WSG/AB queue system. It does not need to be changed because no one is exploiting or circumventing anything in the system. It’s working as intended. Groups and solo players share the same queue. As they have always done. In fact, there have never been a separate queue for solo puggers to any battleground ever in this game.
So what your saying is its totally fine to change one gameplay system due to player behavior but its not okay to change another due to player behavior?
They have not changed the gameplay system in question. The WSG/AB queue system is an authentic and an historical recreation. No one is exploiting or circumventing anything. So it should not be changed.
What gameplay systems do you believe are being exploited?
It would depend on your version of exploiting. Creating twink premades to capitalise on honor gained in lower brackets is not a historical or authentic gameplay experience. It is ruining peoples experience of classic pvp.
Massive queues to get into realms is not a historical or authentic gameplay experience, its ruining peoples experience of classic wow, therefore they introduced layering, which is being exploited, go read trade chat. They introduced a gamechanging system which is being exploited, in an effort to promote the classic wow gameplay experience.
A lot of players made twink premades in Vanilla retail. In fact that was the end game for a lot of people.
So it’s both a historical and authentic recreation of then gameplay system and gameplay experience for those players.
But again. Classic is not a recreation of some arbitrary gameplay experience based on player behaviors. At no time did Blizzard ever say that classic would be that or that it would even be possible.
And dude, try to understand. WSG/AB have N E V E R had a separate queue for solo puggers. It’s has never existed in this game.
You are just making my point over and over. You are using unrelated changes as an argument to add more changes. That’s why we can never add the change you ask for because that change would be used by an argument to add more changes.
I would say that you have that in retail, but not even retail have the change you ask for.
What makes all these premade QQ threads so absurd is that all you have to do is to play with other players from your community. All you have to do solve your problem is to play in a group in this MMORPG. The weird thing is that people seems to get really angry when that is pointed out to them.
I never saw a single PREMADE 39 twink team in vanilla, it is not historical or authentic. And you keep making the same point over and over and over.
Some of us do not have time to min max and go for premades, so is it too much to have a seperate queue?
Why are you so intent to keep premades stomping solo players? Classic also N E V E R had layering, but they implemented it!