I think the answer is simple human curiosity 
@Hyberbole: Not quite. Classic has a bigger prime time maximum, but it still has significantly less total players. The difference is just very hard to tell, because people on BfA side are spread all over the place.
@Eprom: There are those, myself included, who play both…
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its the need for validation.
OP needs to reassure himself that he has made the right choice.
its a clear sign of insecurity.
considering how it took me 3 minutes to set up 30 man WF group last thursday at 1 am with req of 425 + itlv which i was in fact filling with 435 people mostly …
ye retail is ok 
cannot say the same about classic where they already had to remove layering and are desperate to push in DM ahead of phase 2 due so many people leaving game …
i wouldnt hurt to merge at least some server on retail though.
That is probably because almost everyone at Retail are max level and doing nothing else then playing lobby simulator.
same thing is happening in FFXI forums right now, people asking for classic FFXI official servers, and retailers are flaming them, its stupid ffxi is now dying worse than BFA i mean 11 that game was so fantastic before, people only have 2 options 1 bad private server with broken mechanics and coding + network but with high pop, and another new P server with 700 Prime time population, with great coding and players contributing but whenever we ask in ff fan forums people cry and flame us too, i know i know this is a classic wow forums, but we have been asking for FFXI classic server since EQ got TLP, since FFXI was 1-2 years released after EQ. MMO genre is in a sad state, everyone wants to make the next big easy quick game. Did they forget what makes a good game now days?
what do i do in wow now? log in do raid, everything else is boring dont get me wrong i enjoy the sh1t out of raiding its fun, but afterwards what do i do? i play FFXI atleast 6-10 hours a day after work (it used to be classic wow with leveling)
DEF classic wow was best at TBC, anyone who denies it does not remember.
Are Classic players that insecure they have to create threads to explain why they believe Classic is doing better than retail on a daily basis?
We don’t care. Just play what you enjoy and be happy you have Classic again. As a retail player, I can assure you it’s doing fine.
At 4am I was able to find dungeon groups in 3 minutes as a DPS. Do you think I managed to do that on Classic? Not a chance.
I don’t care what happens in Retail. However, there seems to be too many empty servers there, and there is too little server in Classic. Why not move these empty servers from retrail to overpopulated Classic server instead? 
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Don’t get me wrong, but people leave both games.
We lost people tens of thousands after they decided to leave as classic wasn’t for them.
My guild had 400 members, we just cleared out 100-150+ inactive members that only leveled to 30.
That’s just one guild 
Why do you need to constantly remind yourself “classic is doing better, lool retail sucks”
Retail goes down = Classic goes with it, unless they add more content onto classic.
People are like “So much to do on classic compared to sitting in city retail”, but I find myself in the same situation as retail… do my raid all on the Wednesday, then I’m done for the week, so I’d have a choice between leveling an alt or trying to farm Jed for the trinket.
Both games are just as bad as each other in ways XD.
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I just had to lol at this one. Everyone’s been up in arms over layering, of course they try to remove it asap. It’s not a great mechanic for these type of realms, with real server communities, and I’m sure they understood that themselves perfectly, even if they had no better alternative with the first wave that would be incoming.
It wouldn’t surprise me actually if they’re in the process of minimizing layering even on full pop servers to maybe make some people transfer after all, to balance the realms out naturally and have things better prepared for p2. But with that I’m just saying what I would do I guess :D.
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It’s not just mmo,gaming in general is in a sad state.Lootboxes,microtransactions,games as live service really took a big toll on it and the rise of mobile gaming is also not helping.Retro gaming grows by appeal.It’s more worth while to play/replay SWKOTOR or Oblivion then games you have now days.There are not that mutch games you can really sink your teeth in.
It’s actually hilarious how hard you work. You’re really shaping up to be one of the pillars of propaganda around here. Unfortunately also makes it easy to spot and ignore you, since you never say anything sensible, but oh well.
- Removing layering was the plan from the getgo
- They’re actively removing layering DESPITE queues still being a thing on most servers. We lost another layer on Gehennas and Zandalar Tribe yesterday, and boy… The servers were royally fked. Gehennas went right back to the dastardly 4-5k+ queues that has haunted it for the past month… On a weekday.
So I guess you could say people are refusing to leave, and Blizzard is still ploughing ahead hoping to entice them to leave either Classic or their server, so layering can disappear without rendering some servers unplayable.
Releasing DM ahead of phase 2 isn’t a sign of alarm or a “come back guys!” thing, it’s simply giving something to the hardcore crowd prior to the havoc of world pvp while letting the casual crowd have their chill leveling period.
It’s not rocket science man.
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I never expected this to have so many replies, some actually being constructive 
As for the success of retail - I played it and I wish it would be good again just like the next guy, but I can’t see that happening any time soon. As for people talking about low/medium pop servers or whatever - you folks understand, that 26 people online (from two realms combined, before midnight) in main cities means very close death for private servers? And no, this is not different for Blizz, since the logic behind it is the same - there are no people to play with, to chat with, your friends are not playing, meaning you stop playing soon.
Yes, there are much more populated servers than Thunderhorn and yes, they can merge servers again, but the decrease in online players is incredible - I mean, come on, 26 people online in main cities from two realms combined, get real, that’s terrible - I used to play on Thunderhorn/Wildhammer and there were more people in my guild online at midnight than there are now in Boralus.
Also, what is behind the f*cking mindtwist that if retail dies, Classic goes down with it? Any arguments to back that up?
Well, Classic is a game you can play long-term. Retail is more like blowing through the latest patch in a couple weeks and then moving on with your life. Personally, I don’t see the appeal of retail, as an MMO (lol), but perhaps there are people that enjoy that, I suppose. But yeah, that model definitely doesn’t help retention.
One more time. Thanks for your patience.
Bfa has more players in pure numbers, but fewer of those log in during prime time?
And in Classic it’s the other way around, fewer players but who all try to play at the same time?
Amirigth?
And them BfA have more continents, more zones, more servers, more max level players?
And this all leads to BfA feeling of empty when not in Boralus or on Full servers; and in Classic to the feeling of full to crowded in most places - even on medium pop servers?
The big question I have is ….why are there so many f****** servers in retail if all of them are empty???
120 English Servers and 159 other language …. that’s insane…its even more insane if that is just EU and not NA as well!!
Who cares? I hate BfA, but if someone truly enjoys it, let them. At least we have Classic now and so more people can enjoy the version of WoW that they prefer. There’s great value in that.
This may come as a shock to most posters but people can play both!
I know. Mind, Blown.
Classic requires a lot of time and BfA does not.
So funny. It’s like you don’t understand that it’s all the same poeple playing two different versions of the same game. What ? you think suddenly there is this vast expanse of untapped players that just happened to play Classic. AND all those playing the proper game just gave up and went and did other things. If in truth the players you see are simply the same players that play the actual current version but are mucking around in Classic, then your words are pretty hollow. You are just preaching to the same people.
I would suggest that WoW gamers are pretty fickle when it comes to the game and the Classic players will simply jump back to the real game when the content gets heavy again. It was a pretty shroooooood move by the developers to release Classic mid term through BfA. Saves them having to go too overboard with content.
But my guess is that there is going to be an announement soon and it will spark the same players mucking around with Classic to log into the current game for fear of falling behind.
In truth if they really want to test the loyalty they should put Classic on its own hotbutton on the interface along with StarCraft and give it a different pricing structure. Either fresh sub or buy the game and then you would see how one is compared to the other.
For me I tried Classic for 15 levels and got bored rigid. But hey. Who cares. And by the way why are Classic players so scared of numbers. Its like you have to keep going on about how successful it is. We get it. Don’t care.