It’s Atrophy the person who always passively aggressively trolls people . And again I flagged your comment as a harassment.
My actions on the forum are totally different than in-game.
My actions on the forums are usually based on people like Atrophy being anti-social, always flaming on others or simply not contributing to the subject matter but directly attacking the op like this comment or simply anyone that shares a different opinion he does.
Besides that my comments and post do not contain any offensive, hate speech, discriminatory content so you’re once again wrong and not contributing to the subject but you’re only lashing out on me again.
I too would love to point out all your actual toxicity on the forums but if I had to go over all your comments it would be a 2 week job, because there’s so many of them.
So in short the quotes you quoted were topics where I ironically addressed issue in the game, without actually violating any of the terms of use, thus unworthy being banned for even when used in game.
Now the time and effort you take on actually going through my posting history as a direct means of mocking me, harrassing me and once again call me toxic, offensive, discriminatory based on prejudice and assumptions is indeed however a direct personal attack and actually offensive. So good job to you “FatBluDragon” & “Atrophy” especially when you made the comments look like I’m the bad guy with out the entire proper context behind them and your passive aggressive replies to them.
If you don’t want to read the block of text, just skip over to the last part.
Contradictions (open me)
Offensive line nr. 1. Using ad hominems by attacking the person is offensive and doesn’t weaken their argument.
Offensive line Nr. 2. There was no need to insult Atrophy by calling them anti-social.
Hold on, let me add something:
Thank for once again proving my point on the community’s socials skills and maturity.
Offensive Line Nr. 3. Using the hasty generalization fallacy, you insulted the whole community as immature and anti-social.
Ad Hominem tu Quoque Fallacy. Atrophy’s behavior has nothing to do with your behavior. After all, you were the one who got banned, not Artrophy.
You are attacking a strawman. What Artrophy showed was evidence that were contradicting your argument. You claim that you are a “nice guy”; Athrophy proved you wrong, which already does the fact that you got penalized multiple times.
Wonderful, then stop being a hypocrite and give some proper context! You are claiming that Blizzard is the bad guy without the entire proper context behind your penalty because you haven’t appealed to lift the penalty yet. You know you got penalized but you don’t know why and start assuming that they were wrong, not you.
You claim to be the nicest person in the world, bragging how friendly and progressive you are, yet you showed multiple times that you can be offensive, too. Context doesn’t matter because if that line is offensive, it is offensive and thus reportable. So technically speaking, your reply where you call Artrophy a Troll and anti-social can be flagged for being insulting.
You made yourself look like the bad guy because you were bragging how “nice” you are and we just proved you wrong. None of us said that you are the bad guy. We provided contradictions, nothing more. In the end, it’s your prejudice towards people who disagree with you that made you think that way. It’s your own fear of being wrong that lead to your reaction. And you were calling us the guys with prejudice and assumptions. Ironic, isn’t it?
Now then, let’s boil it all down. Your argument, how “nice” you are, is completely anecdotal. Contradicting evidence on the forum and the multiple penalties are factual. If you really want to prove how “nice” you are, prove it with factual evidence. How? By eliminating one of the contradicting evidence.
If you truly are a “nice” guy, you should be able to appeal and get your penalty lifted. If it fails, then your whole thread falls apart because a review of a GM has proven you wrong. A GM would have proven that you aren’t the “nice” guy you brag to be.
stop telling these stories about Blizzard lifting suspensions, all they lift are nonsense automatic template responses and ticket closures. They have no evidence nor time/manpower for reviewing/analyzing what they have.
You shouldn’t be required to be nice in order to not get banned in the first place at all like in any other game out there, not breaking rules should suffice.
There you go again, twisting and turning my comments.
He is always arguing in a passive agresive manner just like you are doing right now.
You’re ignoring the subject matter of the topic and you’re attacking the OP instead.
Same thing Atrophy does.
And my line wasn’t offensive, it’s a fact, just browse his comment history.
And if you’re pointing out offensiveness on my end start with your own comments first, you’re like a child pointing fingers, but remember when you’re pointing 1 fingers there’s always 3 three pointing back at you.
OFfensive line? He is being unsocial by attacking me in every post I create.
Offensive line 3: You’re once again taking partial quotes from a long overstretched comment section. Leaving out context making it indeed look like a bad thing. It’s called propaganda adjusting and altering information to make it look like something in your favor.
Granted I did use the " dick " word.
But you’re literally providing the anti social behavior I have mentioned before. Thus proving the points I made in the past and in this post to 100% accurate.
You’re part of the problem and you’re not only bringing your trolling to the game but even on to the forums.
Your 4th quote, nor has my forum comments have to do anything with my in-game behavior thus offensive generalization and accusations from both you and him.
your 5th quote:
What Artophy showed was bits and pieces of information that might make look bad when taken out of context without actually providing all the details and actual nature of the comments thus manipulating the content to the extend where it favors him in order put me in bad daylight. So you’re clearly doing yourself right now.
You’re not providing evidence you’re taking bits and pieces without the full context hoping it’s enough to get what you want. Which is a raise out of me? or just simply trying to influence the forum community in to disliking me because I contradicted you multiple times in the past, without stooping to your petty attempts of manipulation.
Besides that the post regards in-game behavior and not the forum behavior so again you’re bringing up things that have nothing to do with the original content. Like I have mentioned before both to you and the other guy, Stick to the subjectmatter or don’t reply at all.
As you’re only trying to troll people and have actually never anything valuable to contribute.
Every time your going through these great lengths of trying to portray me as bad guy is just proving my point in regards of the community to be valid even more.
Atrophy never adds anything to my posts he’s just there to tell me I’m wrong and trying to get a riase out of me.
And you usually defend him, and you’re usually the only one who does.
It might make you wonder if you’re not the same person.
But that’s being prejudice and making assumptions and that is something you and him love to do and I won’t stoop to such lower levels of thinking.
Just note that I reported you both for constantly trying to mock, harass and manipulate me and my content for your own personal entertainment.
You think you’re being smart but you’re being really immature.
I see that it probably is not a false ban, you can say that your forum behaviour is different from your in game behaviour but in my experience most people who are negative on the forums are also negative in game and vice versa.
Calling people who call you out on that to be trolling/harassing you is also very bad.
If those were template responses and ticket cosures, how could that person get a detailed list of all lines that resulted in their penalty being justified?
The rules are asking you though to be nice. More specifically, they are demanding that you should act in a non-offensive way. The “Could” is still bothering though.
And now to you, Marten.
This thread is about you, not Atrophy.
The subject matter is about you. Arguing against you personally is a necessity.
Again, the thread is about you, not Atrophy.
What did I say? Context doesn’t matter. If a line is offensive, it is offensive. Any context can be said in an non-offensive manner but you didn’t do that.
Right here should this discussion be over. You admitted that you are offensive sometimes.
Accurate and still offensive. Nothing else matters, only whether or not a line is offensive.
Calling my disagreement with you “trolling” is offensive, too. You used the ad hominem fallacy again, weakening the opponent’s argument by attacking them personally, even though the person themselves have nothing to do with the argument.
What we’ve done isn’t an ad hominem fallacy because the thread is about you as a person. We have to attack you to weaken your arguments because these arguments are about you as a person.
The question is: “Are you talking in an offensive manner?”, not “Are you an a-hole?”
These bits and pieces are evidence that you do speak in an offensive manner. They don’t prove that you are an a-hole because the context is required for this question. To find out whether a phrase is offensive or not, only looking at the phrasing is necessary. Remember, the question is:
Are you talking in an offensive manner?
not “Are you an a-hole?”
Are you suggesting that 2 different people write on the forum and play the game? The same person is communicating on both platforms so their personality shines through in both the game and the forum. In fact, you tend to be more formal on the forum because you have time to think and you aren’t under stress. This would suggest that you are behaving in-game in a worse manner than on the forums. Why else do you think why when you get banned on the forum, you get banned in-game, too and vice versa?
We stick to the subject matter: Are you talking offensively or not? If you do it on the forums already, you will most likely do that during the games, too. The multiple penalties support this as well.
Ad hominem fallacy, again. Prove me wrong in a better way than attacking me personally without an actual reason.
Still attacking a strawman. What have I said in my previous reply?`
Both of us think you’re wrong because your anecdotal statements contradict your actual behaviour on the forum and the multiple penalties you’ve already got. In a nutshell, Atrophy didn’t frame you that you are a bad guy, they proved that what you say might be BS.
Yes, I’m defending them and do you know why? Because I have the same opinion as them. I, too, think that your statement has holes, that the way you portray and the way you act contradict each other. This is a discussions forum. If you don’t want to be confronted by people with different opinions than you, then leave!
And here is your answer on why you got penalized. Think about it: Reports for Chat abuse are always Subjective. The perspective of the reporter determines whether or not a line is offensive. You think that I’m offensive and thus you think you should report me. Well, I explain you multiple times that my focus is on contradicting your argument that you are always nice - Basically, I try to prove you that you have moments where you are offensive - but it doesn’t matter because you felt attacked.
This is how the report system for chat abuse works. If you perceive a line as offensive, it is reportable. You just made the same thing that has lead to your penalty. You are complaining how butthurt people who report you are and, now, you do it yourself. This is irony.
Your report might get through because you felt offended by my arguments. I was talking about how you do speak in an offensive manner but you felt like I tried to frame you as the bad person. Well, time will tell if I get penalized or not. If I do, I’ll take it because I said myself that every context can be said in an non-offensive manner. If I failed to do that, I deserve the penalty.
Also, saying that you reported us is rather childish. I don’t brag how I don’t report you because this is just a discussion, do I? So why do you feel the need to tell us that you’ve reported us?
you still bring up this edge case of report reason from all. Ok I’ll give it to you, in case of chat rules violations when people type bad things in chat there may be some evidence (chat logs are cheap) but for the rest of reports and related suspensions there is none. Means, if you get (false) reported for gameplay sabotage a lot, your ban isn’t likely to get lifted - you’re gone.
how dare you educate people on their playing skills am I right? this is the reason I stopped playing Overwatch, people are A-holes and I don’t care if I say it out loud, they are mean and disrespectful and childlish. I know I generalize when I say this, but if I were to put a number on it, would say 80% of the community is like this. it really is that grim, believe me, especially here in Europe, this is the cesspool of Overwatch. America and Asia are so much better (Asia is the best),I’ve played in all 3.
Yes, this is true but we are talking about chat abuse now. For this case, let’s focus on that report type only before we stop seeing the forest for the trees.
All bluedragon did was discredit your argument with your own behavior, because the subject is why you got sanctioned. All his points were pretty valid.
All he did was cut a few quotes that made me look bad in his favor trying to get a raise out of me.
Thus manipulating the content.
Even ignoring the subject matter of the original post in its entirety.
And he is doing it again in this post.
All that because I corrected him in various other posts in the past.
There for being angered and frustrated trying to put me on the spot.
Making it a personal matter rather than actually contributing to the subject matter it self.
Besides that he’s also prejudice by assuming I’m reflecting my ironic comments after being flamed at by him and the other guy several times, even in-game.
Besides all that, my comments have no illegal nature if they had I would have been silenced on the forums already.
It’s just me acting upon their toxicity stooping to their level of communication skills, nothing less nothing more.
There’s nothing I can prove and there’s nothing you have on me regarding the in-game communications.
Once again you’re making a ridiculous point of absolutely 0 value.
Like I said I’ve grown over 50 friends on battle.net and 2-3 days after my silence was lifted I reached endorsement 3 again. Those are facts and those are things a toxic player couldn’t achieve.
If your appeal is successful, you proved us right. If it is the ladder, you proved us wrong.
Your number of friends don’t matter. What matters is what you said in chat, the lines you gave to others. If any of these lines were offensive in any way, you broke the CoC and a penalty would be justified.
Just appeal to lift the penalty. It will help you more than it will hurt you. In fact, it won’t hurt you at all because the worst thing that could happen is that your penalty won’t get lifted.
As a healer main, all you have to do is play healer in qp and you’re there. Endorsements are flawed due to one reason, xp being rewarded for endorsing players.