Automatic PvP flagging is unacceptable!

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

Many of us PVE players had to grind PVP essences for example. I have spent far more time doing Arena and BGs than I would have liked. A horrible grind of endlessly doing content I do not enjoy. I also use WM because otherwise I’m missing out on the bonus to PVE content.

Next to no one is supporting Blizzard’s stance that makes PvP players go do PvE and it’s not like the PVE player base is not aware of what it’s like to be forced into the other.

I will never have time for this childish spiteful attitude wishing a horrible experience on others. Regardless of whether it’s spiteful PvE players or spiteful PvP players.

[Graytail-azjolnerub]

Getting one essence doesn’t compare to getting a full set of M+ gear and spamming Maw of souls for AP.
It just doesn’t.
5% of your game time is forced PvP, 75% of mine is forced PvE

I am just going to leave this here:

If you wanted a pure pvp based game you should of picked up a different game. Whuile wow was great in ‘offering’ pvp when it was released in 2004, it wasnt anything special. 75% (Your number) was still locked behind PVE content.

Just leavving it here.

If you wanted a true pvp MMO game you need to check out Guild Wars.

Otherwise, wow was never really pvp oriented… It was always a minor part of it.

The only thing I can agree on is ya know, have both pvp and pve paths ahve theyr ‘gear’ issue solved by providing multiple path to similar gear.

[Shogath-dragonblight (Shogath)]

@Tahra-earthen-ring

But only with warmode on.

Its nothing to do with warmode.

They are monsters invading the game you are playing.

Its the game… capice?

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

Sadly I think you are stuck with it for this week. I’m not even that excited about the event. I don’t care about infecting people, it’s fine that others are having fun with it.

I’m just waiting for launch now and all the new content

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@Shogath-dragonblight

Its nothing to do with warmode.

It has to do with fun.
My fun is being ruined. FOR A WEEK.
Not acceptable.

NOT. ACCEPTABLE.
In any way, shape or form.

@Shogath-dragonblight

Its the game… capice?

Not my game.
They can do that in warmode.

Stop being so damned selfish.

[Slapface-kazzak]

@Punyelf-draenor

Next to no one is supporting Blizzard’s stance that makes PvP players go do PvE

You have no idea.
Here, have a read:

PvP balancing is dumb for people that gear their character

If i am 480ilv i should be able to one shot someone that is 350ilv, if you want to make the game even more meaningless and ‘‘inclusive’’ just remove gear altogether and have it be just cosmetic. The guy that does LFR shouldn’t expect to beat people that play the game as i don’t expect Mythic Raiding gear because i don’t play at that high of a level. At this point in the expansion BG spamming is how a lot of people play the game and it’s silly seeing people with literally 300k hp less than you ju…

How would you force game designers to play their own game?

They said over and over again, they don’t want you to play only a single aspect of the game.

Doing PvE should give you the best gear for PvE

IMHO the best PvE gear should come from both, PvE and PvP, and the best PvP gear should come from PvP and PvE. That way only the best players get a true BiS. Gear aquisition will be balanced that way, too. Edit: just to clarify, I meant that a true BiS would be a combination of PvE and PvP pieces, not that you could pick either and it wouldn’t matter.

PvE community be like

You as a PvP player create a topic in general discussion wearing 80% of PvE items saying that PvP gearing sucks as you have to mainly play M+ and raids. PvE player with full PvE gear and not a single PvP piece comes and says that gearing is fine because he like that “everyone has to do both” while he has not even step into arena achievment and he only plays bgs where he doesn’t even have a chance for an upgrade.

[Yukio-the-shatar]

i bellived they have made all servers pvp servers and force pvp on pvp server …

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@Punyelf-draenor

I’m just waiting for launch now and all the new content

My excitement is being killed by nonsense like this.
It shows that Blizzard still hasn’t learned a thing.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

You are pvp flagged when you go to cities etc.

So for example use portal to org and surprise!!! you are now pvp flagged.

[Oldmanbarry-emeriss]

its a special event, dont like it. then avoid main cities. its not even actual pvp fights.

nobody bats and eye when people who like pvp are forced into pve every single expansion.

one limited time event and people go crazy.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

They tested this on the PTR and the feedback was a repeat of the upset during the pre Wrath event. So I’m surprised, I guess as it’s only a week they decided they’d go for it.

[Psjohly-argent-dawn (Psjohly)]

@Slapface-kazzak

You have no idea.
Here, have a read:

The players you quote are actually into both PvP and PvE, and want a combination of both content types to give the best gear.
Solo PvE players dont want to force players into to the other type of content. You are pointing fingers and laughing and being a total bad person towards the wrong ones.

[Ceranity-terenas]

@Shogath-dragonblight

Its nothing to do with warmode.

They are monsters invading the game you are playing.

But it’s not - it’s zombies being controlled by other players. If it was random waves of npc zombies invading, I doubt Tahra would be complaining. But NPC’s don’t deliberately go after specific people, choose to hang about in locations where they can cause maximum disruption, or corpsecamp people. And it’s all of that disruptive stuff that the OP and others would like to avoid.

I haven’t been online today (other than briefly to kill bag boss) so haven’t seen the reality of the event yet. I’ll reserve judgement until I have first hand experience, but certainly if it’s difficult or impossible for people to level and quest as normal, I’d say that’s a problem. Hopefully it isn’t as bad as the hype.

[Shogath-dragonblight (Shogath)]

@Tahra-earthen-ring

It has to do with fun.

No, it has to do with monsters invading the cities.

@Tahra-earthen-ring

My fun is being ruined. FOR A WEEK.

There are lots of things locked behind content i don’t find fun either. You see me complaining like a whiny little… ? No you don’t.

@Tahra-earthen-ring

Not acceptable.

NOT. ACCEPTABLE.
In any way, shape or form.

*fingers in ears, stamping the floor.

@Tahra-earthen-ring

Not my game.

Its not “your” game. Its “A” game that you and MANY others play. Adapt to what parts you don’t like, just like everyone else.

@Tahra-earthen-ring

They can do that in warmode.

Warmode is about PvP. This is about EVERYONE beeing attacked by monsters.

@Tahra-earthen-ring

Stop being so damned selfish.

Says the selfish one.

[Psjohly-argent-dawn (Psjohly)]

@Oldmanbarry-emeriss

its a special event, dont like it. then avoid main cities

Arent the main cities the places where we need to be if we want to travel around the world?

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@Ceranity-terenas

But it’s not - it’s zombies being controlled by other players. If it was random waves of npc zombies invading, I doubt Tahra would be complaining.

Very true.

It’s all about the PvP flagging for me. It’s not acceptable.

[Slapface-kazzak]

@Psjohly-argent-dawn

The players you quote are actually into both PvP and PvE,

No. They have challenger experience at most.
This guy pretty much nailed it when it comes to describing what kind of players they are:

PvE community be like

Only 3 things are important for every dragonslayer: That they don’t have to ever touch pvp, but when they are bored that they can jump into bg and oneshot low geared ppl. That if they decide to play rated pvp, that they can make up for their great ignorance by op pve equipment. That their gear will always be better than pvp gear, and that they will literally always have an advantage over pvp players, just in case if they decide to play pvp. And of course, as long as that is the case,…

That’s it. That’s totally it.

[Shogath-dragonblight (Shogath)]

@Tahra-earthen-ring

It’s all about the PvP flagging for me. It’s not acceptable.

Then park your behind in another city instead of SW or Org. Problem solved.

[Oldmanbarry-emeriss]

@Psjohly-argent-dawn

Arent the main cities the places where we need to be if we want to travel around the world?

its also a place often used for events.

[Psjohly-argent-dawn (Psjohly)]

That post is someone posting “important to every dragonslayer” (read PvE-player) and then goes wild on things he find unacceptable.