That is true, if people really would start again to aim for victory there would not be this kind of posts but posts AVs taking too long, Resulting a small amount of players called real PvPers happy as they get to enjoy they like the most of the game a PvP.
AV is great field of a batlle, by trying one tactic over and over again and then calling people to sit on a harpy cave aint goin to fix this problem so you have to itself work a way to fix it instead asking big guy Blizzard to chance the game more your liking.
In this post have been told several tactics to counter the Hordes strike against Alliances walls like collecting a strike team, mages aoe bombing team, conquering the Middle point of the map SFGY there fore leaving horde have to fight of it… Mostly people just tend to ask Blizzard that they want and that way slowly ruining the game for others of us
I just want to point out that Alliance have won the initial clash in my last 4 AVs. They had 300+ HKs when Horde had aroud 100hk max, they where much better, but we just continue to defend the flags HARD because we know that most of them will go passive after a while and they always do. I have 100% win rate on my alt so far. That’s not due to some details in a map. Horde have no afk leechers at all that I can see and you see maybe half the Alliance team around. That’s the reason we win 100%. It’s basically 2:1.
And then crawling here to cry that the map is bad and needs to be fixed as they are not getting the victory easily, As you see there is always something wrong everywhere else than himself
The faction with short queue can lose in 3 ways. They can WIN slow, lose slow or lose fast. And by lose I mean lose Honor per hour compared to WSG/AB.
That means that the faction with long queue will win (or lose less) if they defend hard. Simple. Nothing to do with map BALANCE, but it’s a consequence of the DESIGN (AV is designed to have long games) with the queue and reward system.
I wouldn’t really say it’s that simple though. It probably goes something like how there are some complaining about the cave distance (which is a non-issue), which destroys the morale, and then you get those who thinks the BG is taking too long and /afk out. So on and so forth.
They’re just doing their own self-fulfilling prophecy in those cases.
I agree. But there are MANY variables in this equation. Map balance MAY have -A- part in the equation.
But the cave location and physical map design is irrelevant. Classic is a recreation of Vanilla and the cave had that location in every patch and version of Vanilla and Classic is a recreation of that.
You mean other than the fact that Alliance have never had a high winrate in slow games on this version of the map? Not in Classic, not in Vanilla and not in early TBC.
How is map design irrelevant? That’s a completely assinine statement. So for example if the Horde starting cave was in Dun Baldar that would still be irrelevant?
Because we are playing a recreation of a game. You can’t change maps in a recreation of a game. You can however tweak queue systems, fix bugs and exploits and such. But you can’t change a map in the name of balance.
Do you remember when Brack said you think you do but you don’t? Yeah, here we are. People proving him right every day on this forum.
If you are gonna defend an exploit where only one faction could form a full raid premade in a PUG battleground and use that clear and confirmed and hotfixed EXPLOIT as an argument I will just put you on ignore.
But you mentioned respawn system. What do you mean with that?
There was nothing in the game that was possible for only 1 faction. And if anything that was the result of BGs being cross realm on release unlike in Vanilla making it very hard (but not impossible) to do on Horde because of the massive player pool. You may put me on ignore if you don’t like to face these facts but it will change nothing.
