Just a statement pointing out that ethics are not the same as fear of consequences or adherence to social norms. As interesting as a discussion might be, it’d be too long, off topic, and probably go into subjects not allowed on these forums (religion, politics, etc).
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I think you should just need on everything thats what I do, people get mad but then they realise that even vendors need items.
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If its a upgrade for someone then i pass but person must equip it.
But if its not a upgrade for anyone then everyone need to sell.
I normally ask in party before i press greed or need but most of the time people say Need.
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I usually wait to see what my party does. But I am inclined to roll greed. If someone actually needs it, like the Rogue, I would insist them equipping it at least.
You forgot to add the “Royson” option
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As a person. 
Depends on the circumstances of the scenario. Are we all fresh lvl 60’s, or veterans? Do we have our mounts yet? You state that the 5-man group is: Double Mage + Rogue + Healing Priest + Tank War. Which of these am I though? If I’m the rogue, of course I’ll need 
If I’m anything else? Well, I’m pretty altruistic when it comes to stuff I can’t equip. If I’m the tank, I’d probably still Need, unless I already have better. If I’m one of the mage, or healer, I’d greed.
If I already have my mount, I’d probably pass. The vend price is only 5g and at 60 it’s easy enough to make this amount without resorting to screwing over other players. That’s what the AH is for.
Since I do not trust strangers, i would roll need.
And since I would be the rogue I would also scream when the mage would need it.
- At entering I say “do we all agree we ALL press need on any BoE epic that drops?” If all agree, that’s exactly what I’ll do (srr rogue) but if ppl don’t agree MS>OS>money rules still apply imho. But you make that rule at the START, not when it drops.
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I side with Oakenlix and Nicolay; in pug groups I usually call out “Everyone Need” if a valuable BoE drops. Expecting your partymembers to be charitable and pass up on something that can easily be traded for something that is good for THEM (YOU are not entitled to anything, even though you can equip it) is asinine. A BoE is useful to anyone in the same respect, a BoP is not. The two are different.
The amount of logical fallacies in this thread is way too high by the way. Can’t you just accept that this discussion has no end, instead of embarrassing yourselves by blurting out blatant falsehoods? Talking about fallacy here, not about your opinion, which may differ from mine. That is fine and will remain that way.
Neither side of the argument is going to convince the other half what they think and do is right, anyway. This point of friction will go on until the end of Classic’s lifespan, I guarantee it.
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says the obvious troll, you get tons of video evidence and still say “but my friends say” bla bla.
you have no clue what you are talking about
i explained many times but you use flawed logic to justify someone being greedy.
completely ignoring the definitions of need and greed.
gold = greed
equip = need
simple as that
You’re wrong. Simple as that.
See? I can do it too.
you have literally no arguments in this.
just because you think gold === equip makes your argument invalid as they are completely different things.
like I said, anyone with even a slight amount of decency, would not argue against someone needing for equipping the item against to vendor/ah for gold.
I’m just glad the majority on my server has at least some standard towards looting rules. People that are in favor of needing on everything seem to be just greedy and selfish people.
if every else agrees to need on it, sure go ahead, but pressing need the instant a purple BoE drops is the definition of greed.
One or other of you should really stop replying, because you clearly don’t see eye to eye on this.
What flawed logic? If 300g drops, how is it greedy to want everyone to have a chance at getting it?
That’d be a good place for you to elaborate why you think gear is more important than gold, but you conveniently skipped that part.
it’s not 300g though, it’s an item first before it is gold.
it doesn’t become gold until vendored or sold on the ah.
So it’s an item first, gold later.
You need the item for equip, gold is for greed.
the argument that gold is the same value makes no sense at all, in that case you can need on everything that drops because it’s gold. I can give the argument, oh but it’s vendor worth is 7g which is what I need to buy an elixer or potions.
Same thing with the epic book dropping from Dire Maul, your tank will be a warrior that might even be there just to get lucky on the book. People that are greedy will need on it even though it’s a warrior/paladin item.
Any person with decency will let the warrior have it, because you know, they need it.
because using gear directly influences the group’s performance, you holding an item in your bag doesn’t.
No-one in the group benefits from you needing a BiS weapon the rogue can use for example. While the group does benefit directly if the roque equips it and increases his damage.
The difference between us is that you think about yourself first, while I think about the group first.
Question:
You run dire maul with the guild, the book drops, do you give it to the warrior tank? Or do you need it to sell to him afterwards?
You run dire maul again, you have 1 guildie in the group, book drops again and he needs it, everyone in the group needs as well. You win the need roll, do you sell it to him or give it?