True indeed, but I see this as a positive because the current Blizzard team for retail need a serious re-thinking of WoW’s current philosophy and core systems.
Genuinely believe that there’s more people playing Classic than BFA now, but Blizzard would NEVER release the actual data (apart from subs) for that because it would cause even more drama and a divide in the community.
I didn’t want to be one of the “Classic good, retail bad” guys especially after playing retail almost every day and getting 10+ lvl 120’s in hopes that I’d find a spec I enjoy playing, while feeling so demotivated to play in the first place, but after seeing the amount of bitter players ON retail (including some “friends”) hating on Classic and saying that it will fail, and that it’s all nostalgia, etc. I had to position myself on the “Classic good, retail bad” side.
I do hope retail improves, but sadly it’ll take a lot to improve it for me after all of the incremental, damaging changes that has been made to it, further pulling it away from what it used to be (an MMORPG) into more like an arcade RPG/Pseudo E-Sports MMO.
I think they are two completely different games. I played vanilla from launch with minor breaks until Cataclysm and quit almost immediately, returned for MoP and that’s it.
Retail is retail, it’s a different game that probably caters towards different people than those who want to play Classic. I’m not saying retail players don’t play Classic or vice versa, but they are two different games.
As for Classic vs retail longevity, only time will tell. For now, I’m seeing all my friends back in Classic who never bothered with expansions past Cata. And it’s awesome.
Let retail die. Most of the expansions were designed from the ground up by profit seeking businessmen. Vanilla (and Classic) however was made by passionate nerds. Blizzard died in 2008 when Activision acquired it. Will Classic lead the way to Blizzard’s revival?
If you think that Vanilla wasn’t made for profit and that the current WoW developers are somehow less passionate, then you’re quite ignorant. But hey, this whole retail hate thing is nice bandwagon to jump on eh?
for sure it will have a negative impact to retail. the vast majority of people don’t like daily and weekly obligations, they want to go out into the world and do things. Retail wow is like a second job. is not fun so if they change retail and make it mmorpg again everyone will go back or play both with the same joy
You can’t read English. Of course Vanilla was made partly for profit but largely it was a fun experiment by the original visionaries of Blizzard. Once their creation proved to be very succesful it was hijacked by Activision’s bean counters. Vanilla has a lot more artistic integrity than BFA. You’re free to play any game you want. I have no interest in BFA. Stop crying.
Unless the next expansion magically fixes all thats wrong with retail WoW im not going to come back, period. I played this game pretty much non stop since beta and raided since Vanilla WoW.
If so many people flock back to the unfinished and grindy Classic WoW it should tell the Devs a lot. Pretty much everyone i know plays Classic WoW, and if the hype stops they will quit, no one has plans to go back to retail ever.
I tried to log my retail Chars… then i thought of all the crap i should do (dailes, weeklies, Rep grind, M+.etc) and just logged out again. Retail WoW is a lifeless husk of worklike chores and elitism based on the wrong achievements.
Not to mention that so far it feels like a lot of the “instant gratification generation” stayed in retail or returned quickly. Its like a filter and i love it.
I wouldnt call classic “better” … its just big event which make it popular. It was always like that… masses plays X game, which made other peoples play it etc it has nothing to do if game is seriously good or not. For that we have to wait few months.
I honestly don’t think it will change much.
They have their crowd in retail, all the instant gratification zoomers are happy with the superficial slot-machine expacks.
So they will keep going down that path for retail and probably build up dedicated TBC and WOTLK servers for the rest of us.
hahahah this makes a change from the retailers posting equally as exaggerated statements. I liked it and enjoyed the read…
The easiest way to save retail would be to revert back to original talent trees, extend them if you must but for the love of god, abandon this ridiculous CLASS FANTASY thing. I don’t want to have to raid in 3 freaking specs, leave me alone
Cash shop sales excluded, I think classic will prove to be the most lucrative venture blizzard have had in the last 8 years. Very small development team, phased release of tried and tested content…a years subscription for hardly any investment whatsoever. I’d wager the largest cost were the lawyers required to force closures of all the private servers.
People willing to sit in massive 5h queues to play classic and not playing BfA says it all about BfA and classic aswell.
Blizz needs to think hard about whats next for retail in upcoming patches/expansions, if they continue in the same path, only ppl playing it will be devs them selfs and family.
I’m happy that I can avoid bfa and enjoy me some legal wow after looking at the new BfA raf, all the really cool looking in-game things now have paywalls behind them =(
Bioware, since mass effect 1/2, started to divided themself and make games more “casual” and less “rpg”. Guys left, bio used the name doing mediocre stuff for the “new crowd” or not well into rpg gaming.
Then they have seen this does not work on the long road and people actually care for rpg, but the team was not rpg anymore… they got mad, tried to make a copy of another action game, failed terribly.
What WoW needs, in my opinion is a reboot from classic, FULL reboot. no more lore breaking bullshet, less rpg design or whatever.
