Classic is DISASTROUS for retail

I agree with your post almost 100% :slight_smile: I do think that Blizzard didnt have enough faith in their own product (Classic) to be able to gauge the huge response from players therefore the queue and server debacle but I truly believe that one form of World of Warcraft will be supporting the other - like I said in my previous post time will tell which form supports which.

As long as Classic is around and possibly, maybe? other legacy servers or even Classic+ should that ever be a thing, then they get my money :slight_smile:

Only way I’d try BfA is if I get it for free, get a free character boost, and if I’m able to play it without a sub. In any other scenario, I would rather just cancel my sub.

If only it could be so disastrous that they would outright cancel “retail”, fire the people responsible for it and focus all their energies on Classic+.
That would make me really happy and I think it would be extremely healthy for the gaming industry as a whole. Perhaps the suits would finally get the freakin message: we don’t want your god damn casino game play in our MMOs !! Stick to old school formulae and everyone will be happy.

Yes, let’s cancel something that millions still enjoy, just because you don’t like it. Sure tells alot about you if that makes you “really happy”.

I’d be surprised if there’s still 100K worldwide still enjoying BfA.

Well maybe they shouldn’t have released an ‘expansion’ that brought in 0 new talents, 0 abilities, removed legendaries and your artifact you worked for x amount of time for and replaced it with a crappy azerite necklace (LOOL)
Implemented GCD change, removed tier set bonus, introduced scaling so there is literally no feel of progression at all.

Honestly Classic WILL fail and BFA already has… This is the end of the world…Of Warcraft, I can guarantee it and in all honesty and coming from a player you played this game for over 14 years, religiously (I AM EFFING GLAD)

People like the idea of Classic at the moment as its new and a breath of thresh air compared to the sh*t storm that is BFA but wait until people get to 30-40 and have to quest in STV, getting ganked all day and then realising 48-50 is the same time consumption as 1-30, let alone 50-60.

They treated us like garbage, never listened to us. Never gave us anything in return except from store mounts to buy for £££

Burn and die Blizzard, please!!!
You did this to yourself and realising a 15 year old game to make ammendments for everything you have done wrong is lazy af!! Especially when people could literally do the EXACT SAME THING FOR FREE ON PRIVATE SERVERS.

People are morons and are all “Ooooh, classic. So fun, so wow. I’m part of a trend”

Well its not, its crap. I predicted BFA would be awful 5 hours into the expansion and got downvoted into oblivion on servers “Re-install, give gold, uninstall” “Troll post” “Ignore him guys, he’s just looking for attention”

Well nope, I was right. I normally am with this kind of stuff and I will be right about classic too.

Come the part where the majority of players are 60, I am 100% sure that we will have lost atleast ATLEAST 40% of its current player base.

Or maybe by doing so they bought back a lot of inactive/lost/froozen subscription.
From a marketing point of view i find it a good move, expecially in a period when subscribers may lack.

Personally i re-subbed for classic, and i’m enjoying it so far. Have been subbed maybe 2-3 months total for legion and bfa, don’t think i 'll buy the next expansion. So in my case, classic has been good for Bliz and retail, got them one customer back, although i consider 13 euros a month too much and wish there was a cheaper, classic only sub.

Is it just me or does this phraseology get thrown around on almost every expansion while it’s live. Only to been reflected on later in a matter like.

"Well X wasn’t bad people just didn’t XYZ and you need to XYZ and XYZ it may not have been as good as Y, but it was better than X, with the exception of ABC, which was good "

That has also crossed my mind a few times too, and it sadly makes sense. It’s like they want to get Classic out before they go full on with instant gratification slot-machine mechanics, time gates and the likes.

I think Classic is a bit of an experiment for Blizzard atm to find out what players really want.

I am feeling hopeful that they will learn a lot from this and continue forward with both versions of the game, making them both engaging & fun in their own ways

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bfa is for PvE gamers its really boring

Oh and what a creature that evolution has given us!
It’s like a participation trophy had sex with a slot-machine, and they’re spawn had a child with a f2p mobile game app developer.

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“Millions”? I dunno what kind of rock you live under, but BfA does not have “millions” of players and Classic has already surpassed it.

BFA is doing fine, everyday wowprogress, raider io, ecc… Are updated with reports and logs of lost of guilds still progressing on EP.

Don’t bother with what the haters benched in cata have to say, they are still salty they got benched after 9 years :rofl::rofl:

Just enjoy whatever version of wow you are playing op

I think you will find that they used an alt to post exactly the same thing on the general forums:

You lack vision my friend. Blizzard are smarter than you think.
This is part of their plan. And this was the right time to release classic.
A while ago Blizzard asked the playerbase what we would think about pruning the levels to 60 again. And the leaks of shadowlands point at a total redesign of the game. The next expansion will probably be the biggest one to maintain a high subscriper-count now that classic has brought many back.

They probably learned a thing or two from classic and will maybe make retail like a real MMO again but in a new fashion.

Either this or they are stupid. But I don’t think they can give up on such an oppurtunity of making money and making their game great again.

Alot of you guys blame blizzard and bash them all the time. You don’t have any trust in them. But ask yourselves, is it really blizzard who destroyed retail? Or is it you? You guys begged Blizzard for quality of life changes. They just listened.

WoW classic had an estimate of 25M players first days. Classic will have a MUCH bigger playerbase than retail, even if two thirds of the playerbase leaves within the next months. This shows that the retail candycrush community is small but loud. And hopefully they will stop listening to these people and make next expansion for the real MMO fans again.

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It’s not disastrous for Blizzard though is it? Mo Subs, Mo Money. Retail was struggling regardless of Classic.

It’s a case of marmite - either you love it or you hate it.

While Classic is a great succes so far, and I’m very happy with that, perhabs you two should get married so you can share your made up fantasy stories with eachother.

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I dont think that is the case tbh. I think alot of players are playing retail because it still is WoW, for most of us the game we played for years and years. Now Classic comes around, and Suddenly there is a better option. Only the 12-13 year olds are not going to play Classic.