Dunno why people are against RDF in WotLK

RDF would not benefit my MMORPG experience.

I care about the journey and the encounters I’ll make along the way.

I don’t even have that much time to play as I have a day job and have side projects I work on in the evening.

Yet, I still find a few hours two or three times a week to continue my journey.

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A couple of comments.

You are playing TBC and TBC never had any RDF so nothing have been removed.

RDF was introduced with ICC in Wotlk so we are far from the point when you can claim anything have been removed even if this where Wotlk.

You don’t seem to understand that the group-finder you are using is not automatic. Someone have to start the group and invite to a group. This person could be you. You could have a friends list with tanks and healers that you could invite. You could be part of a guild that have that. You could set up a Battle.net group and organize that way. You can use chat and talk with people. Whisper them directly. These are the social dynamics people speak of.

In Wotlk Classic we are getting an improved group finder. But it will still be manual and someone have to actually start the group.

While its true, we get a new version of the group finder, it does not solve most of the problems the original RDF solves. If a player lists in the tool and waits for an invite, the player has time to do what he could do with RDF: farm, quest, go out in the world. But the experience wont be any different from RDF, besides he might not get an invite, if low geared.

RDF solves gatekeeping due to bad gear/spec and the need to watch the channels/tool for everyone, so they can play the game instead. If crossrealm is active, it helps less populated servers and the low level bracket overall. The teleport to the dungeon helps low level players especially, because traveling too far and back is often a reason to not run a dungeon at all. Looking at the daily heroic reward, rewarding a random dungeon is more favorable too, because there are always some good geared players running all dungeons. Without it, for new players it can be hard to find a group for dungeons, if the player pool only consists of very new players, and the geared ones doing their daily only aim for one specific dungeon a day.

Overall the new tool doesnt do anything, that the current tool already does. Its just looks a little different. It doesnt solve any of the present problems, that the RDF fixes.

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And your mom caused climate change. So what? It was one of many influences and doesnt prove to which degree the tool had an influence, like your mom. Its simply an unproven claim that RDF was the main reason and disregards all the positive aspects of the feature based on opinions, not facts.

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Technically, RDF didn’t destroy the game it just transformed wow from an MMORPG to just instanced content… and they lost a lot of players along the way…

I wouldn’t even consider retail an MMORPG anymore. It’s focused primarily on 5 man and up to 25 man instanced content.

Lmao have you actually read anything of the stuff people that have tried that tool in beta has to say about it? I haven’t seen one positive remark about it but quite alot of bad things.

You can see players roles more easily, but other that that it just looks a little different. There are no new functions. Its not worth calling it a “new tool”.

I have stopped using the current poor excuse of LFG tool period. And the one in beta isn’t anything better at all. Other then graphically maybe.

I don’t know if there is some language barrier here but I said that we are getting an improved group finder.

but how about social. looking for 1 man for like 40 mins to complete dungeon and never meet him again

This is why it seems useless to argue with you. I know you personally dont call it a new tool, but even Blizzard calls it a new group finder:

You know what we are talking about, but instead of adding anything to the discussion, you try to find a fault in others and blame them. And like with RDF, its you personal interpretation and definition, that you use as an argument.

Thats the thing, because in fact, there is literally no difference when it comes to forming groups, other that its new design. There is no technical improvement yet, and its uncertain at best if they make any further changes.

Anyone who has troubles forming groups, because on high pop servers the only other option is using bulletin and staring at it while its getting spammed and for low pop servers its indeed useless because there are not enough players anyway for most content. This is why indeed most players that want to have a good group finder are skeptical about the “improved” tool.

Just because you dont need it personally or your guild mates that you know, doesnt mean that such a tool or RDF are not needed by other players.

No because everything i see it was wrong.
Social blablabla, you think you do but you don’t, that’s the only truth

Where? Any links ?

No its you who is wrong.

You are not being trolled. I even tried to make it as understandable as I could for you, but I am out of ideas, how you might understand simple arguments. Ill try it one more time. You personally dont need glasses. Yet you say to others that glasses are not needed. How would those people needing glasses feel? Its similar to RDF. There are people that will use the feature for multiple reasons, yet because none of those are applying to you, you see only the downsides and ignore all the people it might help.

I mean you simplified your reason why you are against RDF pretty good:

This is you perception, your interpretation of what happened back in the day. Noone can change it, but that doesnt mean you are correct with your interpretation, that RDF alone was at fault, nor that it didnt have positive aspects, too. There is a reason the tool persisted throughout all expansions. Because of its upsides.

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No and that’s i explain the You think you do but you don’t.
If you want to conserv your dream after that, you’re free.

It presisted troiugh expansion beocuse once you put such feature into the game its almost imspossible take out. Also if you didnt notice Blizzard has literaly in last few expansions made LFG and also LFR to be as little as possible to be relevant so people actualy dont have reason to use it. Thjey know its bad system they just cant take it away anymore.

YEp keep that telling yourself. I dont need your approvemnt. I see it for myself how classic is completly different game without it.

blinded and stubborn unable but ok enjoy your dream.