It often feels like classic Arena has been relatively neglected since the wotlk classic tournament, which I’d like to remind the devs results in a snowball effect on overall game health.
As both an NA and EU player with an active sub since '04, I firmly agree that Minpojke is an excellent candidate to lead the charge for classic Arena health maintenance. He is passionate enough to engage the community on a literal daily basis, and he is skilled enough to be an insightful resource for the devs.
Custom slots for End of Season Reward Titles:
yes, yes, yes we all agree!!
End of Season Rewards (Titles):
I agree with 2s + 5s titles, but we should still find some way to incentivize people to play 3s, the main skill-based bracket that the game is balanced around
Individuals not taking up several spots:
yes, yes, yes we all agree!!
Solo Shuffle/Support System:
Maybe solo shuffle as a feature but no end of season rewards, which incentivizes the main brackets to stay active? but at least add the dang pvp tab back to the LFG tab so we’re not in the cursed “Other” section!
Cross faction Arenas:
Yes this sounds so fun!
MMR inflation from the start:
we could just go back to the TBC classic mmr system? it was fine without the crazy inflation introduced in wotlk?
Disable double dps 2s, triple dps 3s, double healer 3s, etc.
yes, yes, yes we all agree!!
Thanks Pojke for putting in the leg work for all of us <3
Well written post, I agree with most of the things I think that its VERY important that they add titles to 2s/5s to keep the game active. I dont agree with that pve gear being good in pvp is an issue however I would like them to disable legendaries in arenas since the game is unplayable without them I think we should be able gain advantages by having pve gear but not to a point where its unplayable, I think tbc was great this way outside of glaives
What’s up with triple dps queues? I don’t remember a comp being very viable being triple dps? tho tbf I was very young in cata. I remember in mop (I think) Rogue mage boomkin was fun and OK tier but not r1 worthy
Triple dps made majority of people quit most likely in cata I bet, such a simple thing to fix yet they let that happen. Big shout out to blizz champion playing triple dps in first season
I’ve played arena since TBC, and I enjoyed coming back to classic to play, and even right now I really want to play cata PVP, but scrolling through the LFG for hours now that I have less time is just not it.
I would love a solo queue pvp mode added to MOP, it’s the most exciting prospect for me, why not make one of the best PVP expansions truly great? The pvp playerbase would be much higher with a solo option
LFG tool is still bugged after 3 weeks of new Cataclysm patch. People been posting this problem since then and we got no response and no fix, so i dont think they will care in Mop for any of this changes. They dont care about classic PvP anymore.
You know, this post makes me wonder, what can a streamer do to never go to a regular job. You don’t care about the PvP community, you only care about $$$ on your stream. So more people join your streams and donate you
It probably was a major contributor, but we’re not looking to go back in time now - we’re focusing on the future and trying to get some impactful changes through and that’s what we should focus at! What do you think of the suggestions I’ve made and do you have any good ideas yourself?
I understand you, I’ve been saying the same thing for years at this point but the truth is that we won’t get them to care nor listen unless we show that we do and that’s the purpose behind this post.
There’s clearly a lot of interest and passion from the community so make sure to express that because I’ve been promised that they’re going to be monitoring this thread so what do you think of my suggestions? got anything you’d like to see yourself?
Tasteless post. Why would you assume you know anything about me? and I’m the one who’s spent hours in writing this constructive post and I’m trying to use my influence to gather the voice of the community all for the sake of making more people play Arenas and of course I benefit from more people playing arenas, so does the game and people who enjoy them.
Please refrain from commenting unless you have something constructive to contribute with as regards to the topic!
Completely agree with most of the points with an exception of 2s/5s return of glad/r1 titles simply because same people getting titles from 3s would get them from 2s and 5s in addition of 2s meta being stale and boring
that brings another issue all together though, no class balancing, same patch the entire expansion which also made many people quit the game
We defenitly need Solo Shuffle for MoP. I also agree with most of the other points. Hopefully, Blizzard will take notice and make at least some improvements for PvP."
As far as i am aware and remember, triple DPS are really poor in terms of power in mop, maybe it will work against very low rated teams and what not, but nowadays it will be close to impossible i believe. I think MoP has double healer disabled by default if im not mistaken?
Regardless, im down to not see triple dps or double healer, we need that disabled for a healthy PvP gameplay. +1
Lets start with at least adding the PvP section again and not having it in Custom. Add more options to filter players (Cr, highest XP, XP on this class). Now im just cooking, but maybe also something for long term searching, where you describe your XP, your goals, comps you can play and your availability, so that you can seek out some long term partners. Not having to spend a lot of time searching before every session would make PvP much more accessible. This should be the main priority. Amazing other suggestions though
Nope, i hard disagree on this one, having such option like SoloQ or Solo Shuffle will kill 2v2 and 3v3 and even 5v5, if we want those 3 brackets to prosper and people to play them, nothing else should be added as a bracket. There is plenty of evidence from retail or private servers that have this option.
We need to think about the health of those brackets, not killing them with solo brackets.
All of these seem like really solid ideas.
Solo shuffle I really hope they don’t bring in, I would rather see people be able to Q solo and have a team made for them going into the same 3v3, 2v2, 5v5 brackets that already exist. This is just my opinion.
I would also hate to see cross faction implemented into classic. Factions have been a core part of WoW and part of the reason I do not care for retail anymore is that the faction idea is gone, classic brings that back for me. I am all for quality of life changes but they should never be to the extent of undermining the games core principles.
I do hope the rest of what you have said gets implemented tho, I am in agreement with what you have brought up.
Solid post and thanks for putting the time in to help give us all a better game
Custom slots for End of Season Reward Titles:
Completely agree.
End of Season Rewards (Titles):
I agree with 2s + 5s titles.
Individuals not taking up several spots:
yes, yes, yes we all agree!!
Solo Shuffle/Support System:
at least add the dang pvp tab back to the LFG tab so we’re not in the cursed “Other” section!
Cross faction Arenas:
Yes this sounds so fun!
MMR inflation from the start:
we could just go back to the TBC classic mmr system? it was fine without the crazy inflation introduced in wotlk?
Disable double dps 2s, triple dps 3s, double healer 3s, etc.
Don’t disable double dps in 2s, that is god damn horrible. Healer 2s is so extremely boring. Disable double healer in 3s though please.
Never forget when TBC classic first hit and all the arena PvPers had a discord where they actively gatekept players from getting titles and rewards so that their alts could. These were well known PvP streamers too. Wouldn’t be surprised if participation dwindled because people got fed up of dealing with that stuff and played something else.
This applies to people pushing for Glad, I don’t how you would get participation up for lower ranked players when they know there’s no carrot in sight. Opening up more rewards is possibly the better route given how the prestige of WoW items have been lost over time.
