To clarify, I was not telling anyone how to RP. Because we use English as an abstraction of ingame languages, it was less of a ‘use simpler words’ and more of a ‘this is one of the reasons my characters might prefer their own language’.
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Oh, think I missed if you wrote something on a similar/conflicting line, no salt intended.
I definitely like when characters use their own language to add flavour. My nelf can only use contractions or harsher language in Darnassian, for example.
For a time, a buddy and I would actively speak Common in the presence of other races and when the converstaion ticked us off or if we were peeved at someone we’d swap to Darnassian to curse or talk smack. We were told off for it quite often but it was a nice element to our RP.
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I mean why wouldn’t two elves or dwarves, trolls etc speak to one another in their own tongue? People do it all the time in the real world, in public around another majority language. No one would dream telling them to only speak English, French, German or whatever in public.
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Depends if it was IC or OOC. On OOC level, it´s always problematic when people switch to another language, because your character may be able to speak said language even though the game doesn´t allow that. So, people switching to, for example Darnassian in front of a human who knows Darnassian IC, but the player has absolutely no way to understand what they are saying, could justifiably make people angry.
Then there is IC. I mean, there is difference between seeing two Hungarians talking on the street in Hungarian and being in a group discussion with, besides others, two Hungarians who will every once in a while switch to their native language and laugh at something. It´s just rude.
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Do what I do if you’re in a majority and everyone is speaking [language]. Manually type out [language]: at the start of everything. It includes people and gives them something to read at the very least.
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I like to imagine that the hierarchal construct of the Church of Light is established similar to christianity.
My priest is a Reverend, but if you check there are no Reverends in Wow.
Alternatively, I hate people who say “I don’t believe in the Light” or they use server lore and say the entire church is corrupt because one (maybe not just one tho) bad church guild existed.
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There’s some orc reverends and the indication of them through the Cloak of the Reverend quest reward item in EPL.
There’s also a Reverend Tobias TCG card (human priest) and TCG is canon unless overwritten iirc.
atheists in wow are a new level of hipster
in my lore-appropriated headcanon, those people dont exist
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It’s quite the difference to not put your faith in the Light and to be a delusional hollowed out gourd who doesn’t believe in the observable reality of the Light as a thing.
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The 7th Legion also has Vicars, during the invasions, at least.
Don’t the vast majority of humanity, thalassian elves and dwarves hold their faith in the Holy Light of Life in lore, anyway?
A human saying they don’t believe in the Light would be as weird as a human in real life saying they don’t believe in God, because weird as it may sound, the vast majority of people around the globe, even in Europe believe in God/Something.
A majority can still be wrong and the comparison falters in that the abrahamic god is nothing like the Light which daily heals and nurtures the faithful. Even a flat, scientific viewpoint has to recognise that the Light exists regardless of belief.
A Stormwind citizen who flat out states that the Light does not exist is making an insane assertion that runs counter to reality while it is perfectly reasonable to not have particular belief in it given circumstances. Illidan is a smirking git for mocking Velen’s faith but Illidan didn’t grow up in a culture that had Light and naaru everywhere either.
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I’m unsure how would atheism work in WoW- As in, we know that wild gods, naaru, old gods, etc, exist.
Now, whether you believe that their power can save you or somehow offer you salvation or something else- That could be a better milestone to mark your faith with.
Atahalni here for example is a practical nihilist- He doesn’t believe that there’s any specific circumstances where a cosmic power will uplift or offer you salvation, he believes that you need to do what you need to do, for the benefit of yourself (ultimately).
Losing faith in the Light is a very recurring theme in WoW. The survivors of Lordaeron who went straight to Stormwind instead of Kalimdor/neighbouring zones were specifically preyed upon by the Twilight’s Hammer due to their shaken faith in the Light.
Majority of the Lordaeron refugees in Stormwind were recruited into Twilight’s Hammer in Chronicles 3, chief among them Benedictus.
Many blood elves also lost their faith which is what lead to the whole Blood Knight episode. Then you have Arthas and his famous loss of faith. Very recently in BFA many night elves also started to lose faith in Elune like Delaryn and Sira, and I doubt they’re the only ones expressing that view.
Not having faith in the Light due to personal reasons revolving around the Light’s failure to protect despite all the preaching about it being there to do exactly that is a very feasible thing to do in RP.
Denying the Light doesn’t exist is something else.
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Meanwhile, Ms. Levey is staunchly atheistic in regard to the divinity of the wild gods and loa because she believes herself to have proven them to be no more than empowered animals and spirits. A being is not a God by power alone. She does however believe in the Church and the Light as guiding principles, a force of good and lets it shape her ethics.
Atheism as such is just the lack of a belief in deities but to outright deny the existence of the observable powers in this setting isn’t atheistic, it’s insanity. “I don’t believe that the Light exists” is like saying that the sky is green with polka dots whereas not believing that the Light is divine can just be a cultural attitude.
Not even all humans are sold on the Light to begin with.
In Beyond the Dark Portal, Danath and Khadgar are horrified by the Light when Turalyon goes all Xe’ra on an orc and starts enslaving people with it to force answers out of them after conventional torture proved to be useless on orcs due to their biology (their high pain resistance lead to the orcs dying before uttering a single word).
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The same way it works in DnD - you believe they exist but you don’t worship/have faith in any of them as being worthy of worship, or think they’re actually divine.
“Atheist” could/would be an appropriate descriptor still.
Just hope you don’t end up in th Wall of the Faithless.
Head Cannon: Anduins original plan to stop the Vulpera from aiding the Horde was to subtly sabotage them slightly, such as making them take longer roots or damaging supplies so they would be less efficient at getting the Horde resources and equipment across the desert. Thus not causing them direct harm or making an enemy of them, But Halford was the one who ordered the Purge against them believing that Anduin’s plan wouldn’t deter the co-operation between the Vulpera and the Horde.
(some) Dark Iron Paladins are Enforcers of Moiras Rule over the Clan.
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