The ole lvl 20 wall huh. So many quit at lvl 20 blizzard thought they should do something to retain all those potential customers.
How do you cope with rep grinds xD. Boy you are in for a treat with grinding rep in classic.
And that is a key difference. Sure, in Retail, you can play with your friends -as you can in any game that allows for multiple players.
But in Classic, you actually meet people, struggle together through hardships, help each other - you form bonds. Iāve not made a friend, or even an acquaintance, in Retail for years. In Classic, it took me about three hours of play time to meet a handful of people I am looking forward to playing with again.
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Itās called āchallengingā: a completely forgotten concept in 2019 when you actually have to make an effort in order to achieve something.
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Just to give an example, last night i was trying to quest with my mage but mobs were too hard for me, i have grouped with a dwarf priest, because this is not retail and i can not 1 shot mobs. we did 1 quest in westfall then did another then i told him i will go redridge, he wanted to tag along and we ended playing like 3 hours together and now we are friends. this will never ever happen in retail.
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Had very similar experience, but even more pointless in the eyes of topic starter I guess: I was about to log out for the night, as it was getting late for me, but just before that I noticed a mage running away from goretusk 6 levels higher than him (Westfall). I shielded him, then healed (been on priest) and literally saved his but. Right after that I got invite to group and he asked to help him and his friend warrior to go through the quest. We spent like half hour running around, chatting and killing pigs. I got almost no XP at all as mobs were outleveled for me. But I had a lot of fun and I am happy I spent that half an hour in game with them. We added each other to the friend list after that and I am sure, weāll do something fun in future again. Such a situation would never happen in retail - just no chance. I leveled fresh character at new server during Legion expansion - did not add a single person to FL while doing that. Found a guild in retail through forum just to be able to do some end game content, but even after that had hard time to find any reason to chat with guildies or do some things together other than mythic grinds. I had more socialization, fun chatting and adventures with other players within one week of Classic than I had in two months of playing retail Legion. And yes, I am nostalgic about Vanilla as I played it from the very beginning, even participated in open betas of NA and EU. But that nostalgia is not just an unbased feeling - I found all those things in Classic that I was missing and feeling nostalgic for. And the journey has just begun I reached only level 18 within this first week and donāt regret a bit that itās slow - have nothing to rush for as I have been in the end game 15 years ago - thatās not my goal - Iāll get there eventually again, but Iāll have a lot of fun before Iāll get there.
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Cause my young pepega, you donāt choose classic
CLASSIC choose you !!
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In classic leveling, every small step ahead feels meaningful and well rewarded.
At these low levels the 7 silver coins Baros Alexton will give you for retrieving his compass are easily increasing your total wealth by at least 50% if you had been spending on trainers.
When that dwarf in Loch gives you your first white quality shoulders you feel like hugging that dwarf.
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Meanwhile in BFA it feels like you are just rolling in a hamster wheel for a weekly chance at getting something that is actually an upgrade all of which will be outdated after the next raid comes out and soft resets the gear progression, eventually another expansion will come and here we go again, some extra levels just to invalidate the old epics by stat ratings level scaling.
At other times you are forced to rep grind every current faction to revered so that you can reclaim what was rightfully yours (flying) once blizzard decides to let it happen.
What rep grinds were forced in Vanilla? I cannot recall anymore?
you ask but at the same time you put āboringā in your questionā¦ its not a question at all, its a statementā¦
As you said mmo genre has changed and modernized. But wow classic is not an mmo, it is mmorpg. And rpg is missing in retail and new games.
Boring parts are essential for an mmorpg. If you focus last three letters, you understand that parts are not boring.
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The longer/harder something is, the more rewarding it feels in the end.
A lot of people like non-linear games, you know.
The random people I meet who become friends is what makes it fun. No incentive in retail for that.
I still like some aspects in retail. But making friends just doesnāt really exist there anymore.
If you need to ask this you should probably ask yourself why you are playing Classic in the first place. Basically, the leveling grind IS the game. It is not about getting to 60 as quickly as possible to start on some fabulous āEnd Gameā, because at this point that barely exists. It is supposed to be slow, since there really is no need to hurry.
It is just that we have grown accustomed to the convenience changes and trivialised leveling process implemented over the years. We expect to be at max level within a week of expansion launch, so we can start the grind for gear, achievements, mounts etc. Classic is the original experience, meaning leveling is the greater part of the game, where most players are busy - not flying around doing dailies or farming mythic dungeons/lfr or whatever.
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Classic isnāt about the end goal, itās about the journey.
Personally I enjoy the fact that (for me personally) defeating Ragnaros is a goal on the distant horizon, a goal I have to work towards with a lot of effort, while exploring the world and making friends along the way.
Sure, you have guilds like APES and Method who rushed for world first, and they are clearly having fun with that, but trust me when I say most Classic players arenāt like that, I sure as hell am not. I enjoy the journey, and I love to stop along the way to smell the roses, so to speak. Itās such a joy to play in an actual living, breathing, populated Azeroth again, unlike Retailās Azeroth which is all but dead.
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Because last night a goblin killed me and forced me to do a 5 minute corpse run. I respawned in a stupid place, pulled two more of the little green idiots and died again I swore loudly and smashed my fist into my desk. Ive not done that since tbc. Which means i havenāt actually cared since tbc
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Yes you run like forrest gump arround but everything is alot more satisfying especially because of that. Things feel more valuable because you had to do real work for it. Rather running loong ways or searching longer for a grp and running to the dungeon. The real work for this kind of stuff gives more satisfaction imo.
Retail = Rich daddy buys his kid what he wants = Kid doesnt know the value of things
Classic = poor daddy cant buy anything and kid need to work on streets to buy his new talents = he knows exactly how valuable it is and gets a better positive feedback
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why not go back to retail then ? why waste time on classic ? shoo
You could just as well ask me why do i enjoy playing Dark souls if itās game where you die constantly and when you do you have to restart whole area and try again from the begining?
Well the answer is i simply do.
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Iāve already spent more time in Classic than Iāve spent gaming in the pastā¦ Half? Maybe whole year?
Itās beautiful, itās exciting, itās stimulating; itās a passion. Thatās why I love playing it.
Its about the journey not the endgame. if thatās something that doesnāt interest you then classic is probably not your cup of tea.
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