@Eprom: Yes, because the total number of alliance queueing would put an upper limit to the total number of games… Unless Blizzard went as far as to FORCE alliance to play with less than 40 people / AV.
Well based onthat site (ironforge iirc) i can form some battlegroups where horde can premade, some that are balanced and some where allies would be able to premade.
You would have battlegroup meta instead of a global rush drek meta.
The easiest way to limit premade is by not showing battleground ID untill they enter a battleground.
Then, add a deserter debuff for every player that “Cancel” a Battleground because they didn’t accept an invitation.
Also, prevent all players to tag on a certain BG ID : only the “First match available” option should be allowed.
Any decent developper can do it in less than 15 minutes.
We would not need premades if it werent for 1.12. Pre tbc vanilla is made for horde in favour. You actually had to kill the archers before.
Can horde queue in av in same time and get to one semipremaded? Yes, just takes more time and luck.
Can alliance be half immune to stuns and fears? Nope no chance.
Want play easy mode, get ready to meet consequences, you cant have it all.
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/yawn
You (and many other parrots) keep repeating the same pseudo-arguments with no comparability at all. But ofc you are aware of that, you just chose to be willfully ignorant.
Keep Reporting high ranking Alliance players for exploiting AV Queues.
With enough reports, Blizzard will be forced to take a look at it!
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Oh I’m not denying it’s happening, in fact if you read the rest of what I put instead of quoting one line I said it was happening back in Vanilla too. I played horde back in Vanilla and was doing it. It’s let of the game. Albeit it was harder to do.
this reminds me the guys lost in Boulderlode mine, and the good fun for skulls at Kodo Graveyard.
Really ? rofl.
Same here. I can’t rank in a world that even pugging AV nets more honour per hour than wsg premading. It’s sad that to rank up people are forced to play AV exclusively making other more exciting bgs redundant. Also for all the top rankers on both factions, your achievements will be a joke and meaningless when achieved by spamming AV.
Get over it mate. Horde crybabies are legit uncapable of dealing with ONE advantage of us which is the result of their own bigger advantage (being numerically superior).
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Ok boomer
/char
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I fear that in a week or so, horde is gonna start def at frostwolf keep tower with 40 man, making it impossible for alliance to zerg. Some people might be rank 14 by then, but poor the others.
10 chars.
They alrdy do that, and they get crushed by good premades
And now we wait for the “rules for thee but not for me” crowd to start explaining how world PvP happens but battle grounds are a different story and it’s not intended because reasons.
Call it what you will horde players (not all of them) had no problem with mass ganking and numerical advantage. Flight paths and many key world locations where camped 24/7 and they did so with glee. This is a direct result of that. The funny thing is when they did it it was “ok”… hypocrisy much? And there is the usual “intellectual” telling people to “get over phase 2” well you get over it now.
No most horde let alliance zerg and then try to recall, I mean when horde defends with 40 man at the towers aoe the entrance there will be long games i think.
Nah so many games ive had got 30 hks+ just from going to galv and they defend with at least that much till game ends, but barely slow us down at all
We live in a gaming climate where efficiency is extremely important when trying to achieve something with a lot of time investment.
Here’s what really matters:
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The honour system is a horribly designed piece of garbage that promotes no-lifing, toxicity, account sharing, collusion, and whatever else
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Normal rankers like me that just want rank 8-10 don’t actually want to be in AV, because this version absolutely sucks. I’d rather be world pvping.
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AV is unfortunately the best honour per hour.
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Faction imbalance is out of control, directly enabling Alliance to premade and Blizzard has made precisely zero effort to control the Horde being out of control on PVP servers. They did nothing to stop griefing and camping of cities.
Conclusion?
A faction is underpopulated to the point that going premade on AV actually works
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AV gives the most honour per hour when done efficiently by far
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Most rankers don’t enjoy AV or the gameplay loop and want to be done with their honour grind ASAP
= Premades, premades and more premades, directly ruining PUGs for Alliance and Horde.
The strive for maximum efficiency and Horde ruining PVP realms did this. Blizzard will make no effort to fix it, so get used to it until people are done with their grinds.
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There is no such thing as AV premade. It is how the game mechanic works.
Horde can cry millions of times here, but it won’t change a thing, because there is no AV premade. And this topic is entirely invalid.