Is Classic killing BFA?

If Blizzard tell me: Log into retail to collect gladiator mount from your mailbox, i wont log… thats how retail become insignificant for me. And yea agree who loves retail just go… for me its closed book.

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That would be suicide. WoW2 would fail most likely.

Disagree. You’d get almost all the retail players and you’d stand a chance at attracting back many old players who quit.

I, for one, could never be tempted back to retail WoW, no matter what they did with future expansions, but I would pre-order a WoW2 this minute.

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Nah. Most of retail players love their character, and don’t want to lose 10 years of progress. A good chunk of them would quit, seeing WoW2 release, as an end of an era. Some of them would stay and enjoy the remaining content, collect stuff and so.

Also MMORPGs are not a popular genre, so most likely new younger players would avoid it.

So result is very few new players and losing half of the playerbase imo.

have no idea what are you talking about, SW, Boralus, LFG is flooded with ppl

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You’re being naive.

If blizzard stopped releasing new content for WoW, released a WoW2 that was actually decent and people seemed to like, are you seriously telling me that retail players wouldn’t play it because their sulking over their characters, mounts and other stupid unlocks in WoW1?

Not a chance.

Considering some retail players have 15 years of history… you never know.

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Look at how much ppl praised Classic because of pure nostalgia. If you spent 10 years developing a character, doing Ahead / CE, PVP, endless transmog / mount farms then you don’t really want to lose that. Most of the Retail players have unobtainable things, achievments, etc. Most of them are proud of it. In a new game all that would be lost forever.

I doubt it.
I played WoW from vanilla. Around WoD I only played the beginning of the expansion, jumped in late for Legion, might jump in late for BFA.
Classic is nice to play after all this time, but has no lasting appeal for me. When (or even if) I get to 60, personally I doubt I’ll stay. The raids are meh, the pvp is meh. TBC would have more lasting power for me, more balance, better world.

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I’m not disputing that you’d get a few very sulky neckbeards cryinf on forums but I’m quite confident they’d all still buy the sequel.

There’s no way to fix WoW besides a total reboot because it’s absolute packed to the brim with 7 expansions of added ‘noise’. It’s an overly-convoluted mess that cannot be fixed. Adding a new expansions with more classes and gameplay gimmicks merely exacerbates the problem further.

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My friends list is typically about 1 in bfa for every 10 in Classic, which goes to about 1:3 when the guild has a raid in BfA. They still show up for those, but not much else it seems.

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Well since there’s nothing to farm in bfA, but get levels and gear in classic. Does not mean people value one over other, just simply currently one has activities to do - like set up character for P2, or raids, or whatnot.

Youve been already able to get elite gear, achievents neck levels done in modern. Sounds logical to use one down time to play other.

Too soon for doomsaying in my opinion.

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Yes, activity alone wouldn’t mean that necessarily. But I also talked to most of the people on my friends list, and it turns out that they do value Classic more than BfA as well. :woman_shrugging:

For me it was half/half. Half of friends on my friend list played Classic, half BFA initially. However lately its different. Very few are still on Classic and i saw people that quit in WOD and said they will never come back starting to do m+ on BFA.

My own friendlist seems to be quite like-minded with me (which makes sense because they are my friends :P) - more like waiting P2, P3 in classic, hopping between two, not valuing classic above modern, or modern over classic. Seeing both games - like I do - just two different games.

Oh well I play either as long as servers are up and since I dont pay my sub with real world cash anyway, so… can let this wow-sub run whatever garbage or pearls Blizz shares with us.

Doesn’t feel like its killing retail. The population decrease is not even noticable in pugs and most of my guildies came back as well after one week and they only appreciate retail more after trying out Classic.

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It’s the other way round on my friend’s list. All people who was playing classic isn’t playing anymore and all of them are back in retail. So no… it isn’t killing BfA.

Most of ur Friends are on classic for a few reasons :
1- They have done their weekly keys
2- They have done their weekly raids
3- They have flying
4- RNG made them a ilevel 445 god
5- They leveled every class in the game to max level on the horde side
6 - They dont wanna level everything on the alliance side cuz its a s@#$ faction , they know it and you do aswell =)
7- Theyr filthy rich
8 - Pokemon doesnt come out untill october
9- They r burned out
10 - WoW is the only game they like no matter what version as long as you can play together =)

wow in general is just that game - its so easy to find activities to do with friends, even when some of your friends are abysmally bad in games. or… much better than you.

I think no matter how we look at it - classic or modern, wow just is one of those games that works well for different player types.

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Classic is not nostalgia for me, because Legion was my fist expansion. But, I love this amazing game and will never go back to retail untill they will fix everything (but maybe I’ll stop my “gaming life” and become real).

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