Is Classic killing BFA?

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BTW here my vod of yesterday stream son

http://www.twitch.tv/murthag91/v/479222997?sr=a&t=12s

So I’m still “lieing”. :new_moon_with_face::new_moon_with_face::new_moon_with_face:

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People who are this extreme about this are the minority. Most Classic players are just happy to be able to play the game again. There are bad eggs in every community, and those are the ones for Classic.

Time will only kill Classic if Blizzard choose to never add anything to it. I doubt the community will kill Classic considering it didn’t kill Retail. Blizzard could and are killing their own games. It’s not the players doing it.

Players didn’t ask for the things that disappointed them greatly in Retail. In fact in a lot of cases players asked for less or none of those things, but were ignored. Blizzard overlooking feedback is killing their games.

I think on the contrary - Blizzards line “You think you do, but you don’t” applies here. Blizzard simply should have listened fans a little bit less and think calmly like more experienced professionals they are. Because when I read forums here on Classic and most things people seem to find bad /as classic players/ in modern wow have been features playerbase itself has suggested and asked over time.

Perhaps Blizzard has tried to fanservice a little bit too much. I understand fans keep asking, but they should have known better.

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Id go the other way round… Even WoW Classic with all the grind and repetition beats WoW retail.
I enjoy WoW Classics pace actually, especially the lack of dailies and “world quests”.

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Indeed, you could probably link back all the now hated features to things that the community itself pleaded for or to try and rectify issues that the playerbase had with previous systems.

This is only true in some cases. They should have listened to players a lot less when it came to trivialising already well balanced content, but should they have listened to them for other things.

Being given more class quests, reasons to go back to old zones, making professions more interesting and more relevant, buffing old content so it isn’t so boring to lvl up, updating the base ui instead of forcing players to download third party software for basic QoL, less rng-based loot and more effort-based loot…these are among the many things players have been asking for, that would improve the game, that Blizzard have chosen to mostly ignore.

And instead of taking the time to address BFA, which players have been giving plenty of feedback on, they choose the easy route of increasing sub numbers with the release of Classic. Oh look, ignoring feedback again. Nice.

Yea sorry I don’t share the sentiment that we should just let Blizzard do whatever they think is best. It’s not working anymore.

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This is certainly true…

But for some reason I still found I’d rather sit in a three hour queue to play it than log my main I’ve invest 15 year in.

With the move to Judgement and not needing to queue I find I can play, and enjoy, both flavours equally for their own unique reasons.

I like classic because I can play WoW without touching BFA.
At least i dont have to burn that CE collection I gathered through the years. BFA was a really bad turndown for me.

About my friendlist… well only one gym mate plays BFA now. Rest of the ppl, cousin, brother, highschool classmate, the finnish girls i met during vanilla, ex coworkers, well everyone else is playing classic. We’re all in the 30~ yrs old bracket.

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i didn´t notice any difference on my server. Before and after Classic release I mean. A lot of BfA players are trying Classic but they are slowly returning back to BfA. Classic is simply too slow and boring for a lot of retail players including me (yes, I remember Vanilla, I remember how hard it was back then when I was total noob and didn´t know how classes work etc.,).

Most of Classic players are those who don´t play BfA anyway so Classic can´t hurt it :slight_smile:

Those who want to focus on endgame play BfA, those who enjoy a journey (which pretty much ends at 60) play Classic. Both games are different and have different audience. But i like Classic success, more players to WoW are always good no matter what version they are playing :slight_smile:

Edit: Yes, I tried Classic because I played Vanilla back then and I had that nostalgia feeling. But no, I don´t enjoy it, it´s simply too slow for me (not difficult, just slow).

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Zu aller erst du bist Taure… also ein Casual Kräutersammler…
2tens… Du hast nichtmal irgendwie Spielerfahrung, sehr schlechte Rio, richtiger Kasperl in Raids, aber hej lass mal reden wieso Retail stirbt, Lass uns mal die Fakten anschauen, ein Casual noob mit 435 Gs, hat nie m+ gespielt der Raids gespielt.
435GS alles Warforged opder Titanforged.
Ganz ehrlich casuals wie du ruinieren das Game. in Classic musst du dir alles erspielen

WoW is dying for years.

BFA is literally just WoW coughing up blood.

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Hopefully it is killing BFA, and Blizzard will use this to learn what the people really want in the expansion Following BFA.

Thats why I had to sit in que, to log on to my retail server tonight!

Classic certainly won’t kill retail. Subscription numbers on the other hand might.

Depends on how many players from the existing playerbase permanently switch over. And the wildcard factor of returning/new customers.

You can bet your behind that Blizz will follow the money in the end.

Classic isn’t going to kill retail.

Classic, if successfull, might change retail.

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Not at all, Classic is alot hader and far more rewarding. Leveling is rewarding the low level dungeons are challenging. The community is much stronger, you make freinds because you need people to find groups. Retail made some huge improvements in many area’s but it also destroyed alot of wow’s core value’s and gamplay Classic is a far superior game for these reasons. Im having more fun now in classic than i have for years in retail its not nostalgia Classic is just a more rewarding game.

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Classic will not kill BFA, BFA is killing himself for many reasons but there’s a player base that will stay forever. They like pet battle, they like achivements, they like the 600 mount in the game, they like to have 12 alt max-level, they like Mythic + and RIO, they like 1 major patch per year, they just like BFA and being a super-heroes.

But for sure, i can safely say at the moment, there’s more player in Classic than BFA. But BFA will not die, 8.3 will be the last patch and upgrade the player base of BFA, but after 1 week or 2, the players will go back to Classic or to an other game like every major patch on Retail because the game is really “bad” for most of us and the horrible mechanic will prevent them to stay for more time when they will realized that nothing have changed.

Retail can come back at 9.0 if Blizzard do a big big job to revamp the game and destroy all weird mechanic, but frankly i have zero trust on that, the amount of work is insane … like there’s probably more than 250 mechanic that should be revamp or removed, and some errors are impossible to cure or put right (the amount of mount, the amount of golds in the game due to token, the amount of zone in the game so the world feel empty, …).

I’m more happy with TBC coming after Classic, it’s a safe space and a safe bet because i have literally zero chance to be disappointed by TBC. Blizzard have to do one thing : don’t start with 2.4.3 but release patch by phase for TBC so boss will not be nerfed and everyone will be happy :wink: .

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Actually releasing classic has put blizzard in a good position. They’ve regained a lot of of existing subs which now gives them a perfect opportunity to fix all the problems with retail.
If they had not released classic and just focused on fixing BFA I doubt they would have gotten as many existing subs back.

Tbh, I do not have an opinion on this, as I do not really use my Battle Net for anything but WoW Classic, so all the people I have (only IRL friends) are only playing Classic (and some Hearthstone).

I actually just deleted all other “friends” I had on BNet because they were more or less pointless.

Anyways, my “dream” moving forward with WoW now… And I know this is a hard ask with modern Blizzard… I hope they continue WoW in the Vanilla/Classic spirit and gameplay, but create an Alternate Timeline. So instead of getting TBC, we get something completely different. The current series of expansions will be considered WoW 1 and the new Alternate Timeline will be considered WoW 2. I think this is great. Both games start at the same point, but there are two sets of expansions.

In what universe?