Such a Legend who ran away from Jaina in fear 
Literally not relevant until Blizzard realised they need an actual leader for the deathstalkers. Thatâs not how good writing works my guy.
Was sitting on his bum since TFT. I think you confuse him with Zekhan.
Getting the job cuz your superior died is not an accomplishment.
And the revenge on kul tiras never came to be.
We just lost in alterac valley 
Also, I may make a thread about this in the story forum later, but I think Grommash is gonna return as a Lightforged Paladin. It would make sense, if they bring Yrel back, because maybe they turn him into a Lightforged after the events of the heritage questline in alternative timeline draenor.
Thatâs because Erevien is stuck on âTwo wrongs make a rightâ, rather than want improvement for the Horde, the Alliance must be made just as miserable instead, a pretty childish mindset, really.
Youâre right about the lack of purpose of the Horde nowadays, since their only motivation ever was âPicking fights with the Allianceâ, now thatâs off the table, the Horde are left without apparent purpose, since going back to fighting each other seems off the table, giving the Horde a new (More constructive) purpose should be priority #1 for the writing team.
Seriously - this isnât healthy.
I apologize but most of the post i have read from you are really dumb/B.S.
1st of all every time you never bother of improving Horde (new characters , better zones, anything) But always Alliance must loose something . alliance must be defeated and so âŚ
I donât going to bother but reminds me of some radical left communist that simply want to bring everyone down .
People wantâs to improve the game overall for both side , just a selfish ⌠Take a breakâŚ
If the alliance is allowed to keep their veterans then so should the Horde. I demand faction balance and equality.
Just enough NPCs the negative ratio is evened out.
Funny how Blizzard still keeps pushing alliance heroes into our faces isnât it?
I donât necessarily agree. The Horde had a very clear story and motivation: At first they wanted to inhabit azeroth, because they destroyed Draenor. That happened, because Gulâdan manipulated Nerzhul, and therefore most of the orcs, to help KilâJaeden kill Velen. On Azeroth the Alliance obviously viewed the Horde as invaders, and had war against them. The writing was way more complex than that though, as Thrall, the son of the only resistance against Gulâdan, Durotan, was raised and enslaved by the Humans. The Orcs in the end just tried to find their place in this world, so they had to fight against the Alliance. Thatâs why the Tauren and the darkspear Trolls shared a common fate with them, as they also only tried to find peace initially.
Iâm leaving some stuff out, but in the end, Thrallâs initial version of leadership was to starve the Horde in the Barrens to punish everyone collectively for what theyâve done in the past. Garrosh on the other hand tried to reinstate the old ways of the Horde, but he got corrupted by the Sha, and became extremely evil due to this. However, Thrall punished him to death in the end by cheating in a Makgora, and, for this, he also lost the respect of the Elements too, so he became absent of the Horde for a long time similar to Anduin during Dragonflight.
After the events of MoP Sylvanas became the leader, and she acted basically as the new Gulâdan, where she exploited the naivity of the Horde to push the agenda of the Jailer, and obviously Saurfang resisted against her, as he lived through this once before, where Gulâdan did the same with KilâJaeden as the manipulator.
Now, the Horde genuinely lacks a purpose. They had a story until Shadowlands in my opinion, but now they are kind of aimless, and they seem like Sidekicks of the Alliance in their cosmic war. They donât really have their own will currently in my opinion. Even the most important character of the Horde currently just supports Anduin Wrynn for unexplained reasons, because he has to do something, doesnât he. Naturally Velen should have been the supportive role for Anduin.
I think they should just kill off all the Horde leaders and declare the Alliance the winners of the war. Enslave all the horde races, and make them work for our continued prosperity.
Horde are already the majority as playerbase and they were catered to hard during the Sylvanas arc, felt like there was a post every.single.day about how people fetishized over Sylvanas.
And Alliance has already lost Varian Wrynn and with him died the last bit of masculinity on our side.
One leader is nearly not the same compared to the dozens of Horde characters that were axe. Ever.
yeah but youâre also a blood elf, you may aswell come over to alliance since you play the sparkly dudes of the horde
Yes the best race ever
Rexxar would be wonderfull to get back into the spotlight
im down for Turalyon hes a little bit sus
Actually the alliance has always lost where it counts. Their races.
Let me see.
We have humans.
We have slightly smaller humans.
We have slightly smaller humans made of stone.
We have slightly smaller humans with lava hair.
We have bigger humans.
We have strange skinned humans with long ears. Twice.
We have tiny humans.
We have tiny mechanical humans.
We have lizards that are human most of the time.
We have werewolves that are humans half the time.
By default alliance loses in a fantasy game. Every other win just doesnât matter in the face of that.
Horde wins the game no matter who gets offed on Ally side. (And whoever gets off-ed will 99% be human.)
I vote Jaina btw.
Vereesa would be mine, though Jaina is an acceptable target as well.
Iâd be happy to lose the Alliance logo. The Horde logo is way cooler, and Iâve always been envious of it.
You againâŚ
Your blind loyalty to questionable characters is bad enough. Donât come at my Alleria. 