Onyxia, MC cleared, You may just release NAXX; Absolute failure of the "true" vanilla experience and how to fix it

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TLDR; Feels means Feels. Feels != Is.

Add new abilities to bosses, increase dmg so it feels as harder. Jobs done for now. Work on classic+ to recreate the true vanilla experience.

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Just play the game, doesn’t matter how easy it is if it’s fun

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Let people play it how they want, if you want to go slow then go slow by all means. Why are you so bothered about people playing it their way?

You could have easily mobilized a guild and done it before them. But you chose your way to play, so why are you unhappy with your choice?

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Jesus H Thrall.
Some of the whining on these forums is absolutely pathetic.

Apes killed Raggy. You mean one of the most well known private guilds who play Vanilla/Classic all the time? I wonder why they found it so straight forward

You mean the boss that’s been out for 15 years? I wonder why everyone knew the strats etc?

I do wonder what rock some people live under. Have you got to 60 and cleared MC yet yourself? No? Then why should it bother you?

You won’t get some nostalgia level rose tinted vanilla difficulty. That ship has sailed for bosses that we know. If Blizzard create new raids in a Classic+ scenario after Naxx then maybe that’ll return, but seriously? Just enjoy the friggen game.

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So you gonna quit basically someone was just very fast to take down the bosses with 5+ experience.

We wanted no chances, blizzard listened - they game was never that hard as people tough.

who cares if they were first, enjoy your own phase - this aint a Esport.

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You do realise that the main blame is on the #nochanges crowd right? And these people don’t come from retail, they come from the vanilla fanboys camp.
They’re the ones crying constantly about not making changes to an experience everyone knows was going to be over in a few moments because end game content in vanilla was brainless.

And please stop with the “classic experience”, because it looks like people here DON’T KNOW what kind of experience they want when this mantra is being spat out despite meaning different things. Don’t make it obvious that the audience doesn’t know what they want.

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#nochanges has been created by the clowns and their pathetic minions. One balding sperg that lives in mom’s attic and probably uses text to speech to even read this thread tells his brainless sheeps to spam #nochanges without understanding how changes could help the game to become better.

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What aggro, I am literally walking trough mobs both open world and dungeons and not pulling sh*t… You can’t autoshot pull a mob out of a 5 group pack without pulling whole pack but well obviously in this authentic classic you can. Worse scripting than Pservers.

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One guild cleared it, out of millions of people. The game is ruined!!!

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A ‘true’ vanilla experience would require them to have made an entirely new game in 2005…

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I do.

I don’t.

Nope.

I hope not. Don’t ruin my game.

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Vanilla was never challenging. People are just better at the game, these days.

Dial up and potato PCs played a bigger part in Vanilla’s perceived difficulty than anything else

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But you tried to talk for me. I did not approve that. Don’t say “no one”, “we” and so on, because you’re not the voice of the Classic community.

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It’s because they are easier, we’ve all been through more complex challenging content since vanilla was first out. Making the mechanics etc in vanilla seem very child like when revisited.

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Vanilla was never challenging

Tell it to the 99.9% of players that didn’t clear naxx back in the days.

Vanilla was and should remaing challenging. Changes needs to be made for the game to remain challenging. I don’t want to see 99.9% of people clearing naxx, I wanna see less than 10%.

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You seem to be contradicting yourself. you want the classic experience but want to make sweeping changes that’ll change the game alot. You wrote on a forum to express your opinion now you’re getting backlash you’re saying were all “irrelevant” whatever that means. Maybe you shouldn’t express your opinion if you don’t like people questioning it? Thoughts?

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Only challenge we have is to become community again, community who talk with each other. That is something retail lack.

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Alright, let’s break down this myth. Wanna know why vanilla was challenging? Here we go:

  1. Raids were either bugged or stupidly overtuned. LFR Eternal Palace is infinitely more complex and harder than any vanilla raid.

  2. Raids required a LOT of preparation and farming specific gear, which ofc most people couldn’t bother with.

  3. People were noobs. Yes, noobs. Most people back then never even played an MMO before.

So yeah, there’s no way that can be replicated now. Especially since Blizzard don’t really want the main endgame content to be accessible to 0.1% people.

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Yeah and they will continue to get world first in every other tier and be rank 14 the fastest, but who cares? Classic WoW isn’t an e-sport, just enjoy the game your way while they enjoy it theirs.

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Geez, I am surprised you can type, I think you will be considered genius in NA tho.

  1. You are stupid, that’s the fact

  2. Classic/vanilla used to be hard back in the days

  3. Classic right now is easy as hell

  4. Classis needs changes to be hard again for the cost of changes

  5. You need an individual study plan