Please don't put phase 2 to early

From some moral perspective you can say that Blizzard could turn the 2 hour queues in prime time into 10 hour queues and make it so that the queue starts to build right after morning, and then justify that by offering transfers. Problem is that transfers are barely effective even under those conditions, and they achieve next to nothing without the insane queues.

So what would probably happen is that those few big servers would have queues for many months as they slowly go down as people stop playing out of boredom and out of frustration. Itā€™s just not a good practical approach for maintaining player engagement. But if Blizzard delays Phase 2 until there isnā€™t a need for launch-like queues anymore they will largely avoid the worst of it.

I mean surely you donā€™t believe in the tremendous power of free transfers anymore? They are nice and necessary but the real life effect of them has always been small.

Out of curiosity, when does everyone think it would be best for Phase 2 to start? :thinking:

As a reminder Phase 2 will include Dire Maul, Azuregos, Kazzak and the PvP Honor System.

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Honestly, itā€™s tough to say. The real reason why we should still wait for a long time is because the vast majority of people are still between lvl 30-50, and it would suck to feel like you need to rush not to feel behind

Imo phase 2 shouldnā€™t happen before 2 months down the road: world pvp will be everywhere at that point, and those who are not at least lvl 50 will really suffer from it

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Id say phase 2 at the start in december

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You forgot to include the removal of layering.

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Realistically Iā€™d say either December or January (or even Marchā€¦) but thatā€™s my personal opinion.

As someone else has said (and I am sure you have the data) most are level 30-50 as they do not have the time to play all day, every day. It is not their fault if thereā€™s already lvl 60ā€™s whoā€™re bored waiting for the next phase - and besides, they can always work on important alts and professions, preparation for the honor system, etc.

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When the majority of ā€œactiveā€ players are level 60.

p.s. Do not include DKs, they ruin grouping in wPvP, with little benefit to questers.

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From a selfish perspective I need more time to hit 60 and farm some gear, given that Iā€™m a slow leveller, Late December / 1st 2 weeks in January ā€¦

I guess though the people who have cleared MC / Onny and have them on farm would disagree.

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Late January maybe February
(if you want reasonā€¦ more time to fully experience true classic feeling)

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Soon. The average level player should be below 60 and should be farmed.

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27.02.2020.

This question is actually the one that is to be considered when there is a census. As long as there is no reliable information on server population, faction balance one should not consider rushing it.

While there might be players who want to have that content up asap, the crowd iā€™ve met while playing is still underleveled, undergeared and will sure stay that way well into the christmas holidays.

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At least 6 months give the casuals time to catch up.

Donā€™t force people to rush.

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Iā€™m hoping its delayed as much as possible ive only just hit 38! Wish i had more time to play! (Dad problems)

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I donā€™t care when itā€™s released, all I care about is that future PVE content is TUNED CORRECTLY so it canā€™t be facerolled by level 55s in greens.

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Look at all you selfish people. How are we going to rank up if we cant farm you all? :wink:

if we go by EU-timeline right now if we go by US-timeline around January with the OG time frame in mind.

as for that is best? if you wish for most people to experiance MC running without dire maul January would be a good time frame as people have been a lot faster leveling this time around. if you want it a bit more exlusive November

Can I answer with a question? Errrā€¦ I guess I just did XDā€¦ oh wellā€¦

What is the real population on each server, with all layers combined? The reason I ask is because I would not dare to give you an answer until I am sure that layering will be disabled without people having to wait for endless queues again in order to play the game.

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in 1-2 months

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no, i want pvp now p2 is no new raid anyway

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Too bad. Go level an alt or something.

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