Please stop rushing the content progression on anniversary

[Pumpndump-firemaw]

No speed it up, vanilla is overrated. TBC asap

[Bananoid-firemaw]

@Sharknado-nethergarde-keep

If anything people should aim in BWL/ZG not AQ40/Naxx and keep in mind TBC is coming.

The same issue will happen in TBC if Blizzard applies the same timeline. In other words, have a goal of completing 50% of Vanilla, and maybe 50% of TBC?

It is a deal I am sure many will not like, as evidenced by this post.

[Retromind-thunderstrike]

Please let the people play the game the way they want to play it without making them feel bad, okthxbye

[Sharknado-nethergarde-keep]

You can clear AQ40 or Naxx just dont expect Atiesh to be guaranteed.

Say Naxx in Dec, TBC in March or April with generous month prepatch. 16 resets of loot vs 40 sweaty people is not enough unless you are a druid.

People will be here complaining that they arent invited to sweaty guilds, that they are gated from AQ or Naxx while they need “time” because bis set from Naxx is for everyone…

[Bananoid-firemaw]

@Sharknado-nethergarde-keep

16 resets of loot vs 40 sweaty people is not enough unless you are a druid.

Druids deserve all the loot they can get in Vanilla!

[Aphandra-terenas]

@Bananoid-firemaw

The same issue will happen in TBC if Blizzard applies the same timeline. In other words, have a goal of completing 50% of Vanilla, and maybe 50% of TBC?

It is a deal I am sure many will not like, as evidenced by this post.

What is 100%?
I think a lot of progress can be achieved, but not everything. A lot of people try to play too many characters and also achieve certain milestones with too many of them.

Perfecting one character is probably possible. Playing 2-3, dedicating them to specific content is likely also.

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I learned this from 2019 and now I only run two characters and only plan to add +1 with each expansion. I hope to clear some raids on the resto druid.

In 2019 I created my usual hunter, but also a mage because current love, resto druid because of course, prot pally because of course, and then a shaman during BC, a priest which got boosted for the last weeks, and a DK during WLK. I was terribly behind - partially because I got stuck during Classic and carried it further - but it all changed when I decided to reset my brain for the last weeks of WLK and just focus on some 80 content.

[Bananoid-firemaw]

@Aphandra-terenas

What is 100%?

By 100% I mean having a main, and getting this main to complete all relevant PvE content during the duration of Vanilla. I would settle for this since you know very well the game can be literally endless. The mere existence of Era proves this.

I know many here insist that this is easily doable by casually playing a few hours every week, but I beg to differ. For many, this is a very difficult task to achieve.

[Kajjan-gehennas]

“People have no time to gear up alts”.
I think alts is for killing dead-time between releases.
This is a 20year old game, there’s nothing new about the classes.

The latest release was for pvp and pre-bis gear from Dire Maul. Nothing was lost.

Also, i have to add.
This isn’t a game for someone with a limited amount of time.
It takes time to level, it takes time to farm gold and gear.

I think this release pace is good. I am however worried about the rumor of a rank11 pvp cap until p3.

[Balduregan-spineshatter]

@Kajjan-gehennas

This is a 20year old game, there’s nothing new about the classes.

Then why do you play it at all, if it’s not worth playing when there’s nothing “new” in it? Besides, nobody was talking about playing alts. Many people would be glad to just be able to play a single character properly.

@Kajjan-gehennas

This isn’t a game for someone with a limited amount of time.

That’s your opinion. With this kind of release schedule it clearly isn’t for people with a life outside of WoW. However, this schedule is not part of the game itself and can be changed easily.

[Sharknado-nethergarde-keep]

@Balduregan-spineshatter

With this kind of release schedule it clearly isn’t for people with a life outside of WoW. However, this schedule is not part of the game itself and can be changed easily.

In your previous posts, you wrote you don’t want to be behind but you also aren’t into catchup or alt raids. This is purely a problem in your head. You want to level multiple characters in the slowest version of WoW, pre-gear them, and start raiding but only in a very specific path where everyone else waits with raiding for you.

And the economy would not get un-botted and you will not get epic mounts from selling random leveling junk

[Punkpally-firemaw]

This is just false and exaggerated. You can easily have a life outside of WoW: job, friends, whatever, and still have hit 60 by phase 2. Unless you’re playing like 1-2 hours a day, in which chase they are right, it’s not a game for you. Play a less time consuming game.

[Thayita-hydraxian-waterlords]

@Dionk-firemaw

While I understand some people just want TBC asap, I feel like the majority of the current playerbase on anniversary plays to get the same feeling/experience as the 2019 fresh, not to just wait for the next expansion.

This experience, in my opinion, is heavily ruined when you dish out content phases so rapidly. It makes gear and character progression lose most of its value. People have no time to gear up alts. When are you going to realise the majority of your playerbase aren’t the sweaty people who got to 60 in the first 2 weeks (I’m stating this being that type of player in the past).

I can’t be the only one thinking phases are coming out too soon. Please, reconsider your decisions and slow down a bit. The timeline duration we had on the 2019 release up to TBC was perfect. Thanks

There is a lot of people wanting progression but in a much slower scale. So that they can explore the game in the vanilla state DURING (not long after as era) the progression with alts and so on. I hope one day Blizz understand that.

[Balduregan-spineshatter]

@Sharknado-nethergarde-keep

In your previous posts, you wrote you don’t want to be behind but you also aren’t into catchup or alt raids. This is purely a problem in your head. You want to level multiple characters in the slowest version of WoW, pre-gear them, and start raiding but only in a very specific path where everyone else waits with raiding for you.

And the economy would not get un-botted and you will not get epic mounts from selling random leveling junk

Nothing of what you wrote has got anything to do with my statements. Zero. None.
You don’t understand me (or just don’t want to) and even completely alter my statements so that it means what you want it to mean.

@Punkpally-firemaw

This is just false and exaggerated. You can easily have a life outside of WoW: job, friends, whatever, and still have hit 60 by phase 2. Unless you’re playing like 1-2 hours a day, in which chase they are right, it’s not a game for you. Play a less time consuming game.

1. Where did I specifically state that you can’t be 60 by phase 2 if you play less?
2. Why should I and so many others “play a less time consuming game” when we can just have a slower paced game by not rushing the phases? Why does it have to be according to YOUR preferred pace every single time? How does it affect you if there are some servers which progress more slowly? Why don’t YOU just play a game that’s more time consuming then if the slower pace isn’t your thing?

I’m sick and tired of people like you who are doing nothing besides trying to invalidate our arguments for a slower game all the time. I acknowledge your preference for rushed phases. That’s your opinion ad your playstyle. Ok, I’m fine with that. But can you just please stop forcing this on all other players in every single realease and all the time? There already exist multiple versions of the game which completely fit your playstyle. Thank you!

[Nohma-thunderstrike]

no thanks, game gets pretty boring when you hit prebis

[Kajjan-gehennas]

Because i enjoy it, what do you mean?

Yes, the original poster was talking about alts…

It’s not an opinion, that’s how the game was designed.

[Cylaris-argent-dawn]

Personally I like the idea of a slow fresh version. I’m guessing it’d attract fellow ‘smelling the roses’ kind of slackers, which are my favourite compatriots

[Onedeath-stitches]

@Dionk-firemaw

While I understand some people just want TBC asap, I feel like the majority of the current playerbase on anniversary plays to get the same feeling/experience as the 2019 fresh, not to just wait for the next expansion.

Btw.

In SoD we had AQ40 for a full 60 days before they released naxx.

so yeah, just be repared for that kind of speed

[Iddx-firemaw]

@Onedeath-stitches

or a full 60 days befo

I’m so happy I quit that SOD garbage.

[Onedeath-stitches]

@Iddx-firemaw

I’m so happy I quit that SOD garbage.

I enjoy it very much.

The current paladin playstyle with AQ tier set is very enjoyable.

What makes you dislike it?

[Punkpally-firemaw]

@Balduregan-spineshatter

1. Where did I specifically state that you can’t be 60 by phase 2 if you play less?
2. Why should I and so many others “play a less time consuming game” when we can just have a slower paced game by not rushing the phases? Why does it have to be according to YOUR preferred pace every single time? How does it affect you if there are some servers which progress more slowly? Why don’t YOU just play a game that’s more time consuming then if the slower pace isn’t your thing?

I’m sick and tired of people like you who are doing nothing besides trying to invalidate our arguments for a slower game all the time. I acknowledge your preference for rushed phases. That’s your opinion ad your playstyle. Ok, I’m fine with that. But can you just please stop forcing this on all other players in every single realease and all the time? There already exist multiple versions of the game which completely fit your playstyle. Thank you!

1. Here is your quote below. If you did hit 60 at a slower pace, then you literally have nothing to complain about, the schedule is going just fine for you even though you have a life outside of WoW.

@Balduregan-spineshatter

That’s your opinion. With this kind of release schedule it clearly isn’t for people with a life outside of WoW. However, this schedule is not part of the game itself and can be changed easily.

2. The game is already slow paced. We only have 2 raid instances and probably until mid to late March at best. They even delayed the initial release of MC/Ony by 3 weeks since launch which they didn’t do for Classic 2019 or for SoM. That is literally what slower pace is.

Furthermore in Classic old raid tiers do not stop being farmed even after Naxx releases due to a lot of items from them remaining either BIS or close to BIS. You are not missing out on anything. The new patch released on thursday only introduced catchup mechanics with ranking gear and Dire Maul instances that have better gear than most other instances. This isn’t my opinion, this is straight up fact. The game isn’t going anywhere, you have all the time you need, just how freaking slow do you want it to be?

@Balduregan-spineshatter

The same can be said about PvE content. Most players running it are way better equipped in a more progressed environment, so the whole thing becomes easier. In many cases I feel kind of useless, maybe nobody would even notice me going AFK during a dungeon or raid, because the impact I have with my low gear is so little. This is not fun for me and if I dont’t want that, there’s again no switch to turn it off.

The difference between dungeon pre-bis gear and MC gear is miniscule. You are making things up.

@Balduregan-spineshatter

• Level a different character (you know, there are 9 classes in this game)
• Play a different version of the game (there’s SoD, Cataclysm and Retail)
• Pause your subscription and play a different game
• Don’t play at the computer at all and do something entirely different

The game updates content every few months exactly to avoid it’s players unsubscribing and not paying them money. You won’t be going anywhere since you’re going slower and a faster player isn’t going anywhere because new content phase is on the horizon. It’s the best way of keeping everyone engaged and subbed.

@Balduregan-spineshatter

What I’d like you to tell us instead is, why does every single version of the game has to be rushed?

Nothing was rushed. We’re still at the same raid tier and will be for at least another month and a half.

@Aonani-pyrewood-village

Why this game cant have speed is fact that all raids r 40 MAN almost all meaningful where is good gear and trust me no one want less geared char in next raid next phase. In theory a lot people will not get chance to have at least 50% of bis gear when they enter in BWL which req more gear u to have. That leads to that theory…

Like I said responding to another player in the thread, the difference in gear between pre-bis dungeon items and MC items is miniscule. If you are actually a quality player with pre-bis gear, you will get spots in BWL with blue pre-bis gear. Besides, it is VERY rare for any player to have their full phase BIS before the next one comes out.