While I do think multiboxers have an unfair advantage in PvP like 5x pom pyros on the same target at the same time no counterplay and they do have an easier time bringing gold into the economy, they are a minority of the player base and their impact is minimal.
If blizzard wanted to do such a hard-line change they should have done it at the start of the release instead of ruining the amount of time invested these players have put into the game their main focus should be botters and hackers and gold buyers and fixing glitches within the game the 1 button 1 action was fine for most of the activities multi boxers since it is not automated
While getting rid of all the gold buyers would be nice, it wouldnât solve many peopleâs main issue with multiboxers. Most people donât care about someone running 5 man dungeons solo just for fun. They do however care about people with 15+ accounts waiting as ghosts outside raid entrances to ress and wipe large parts of their raid in less than a gcd. It detracts from their enjoyment, and there is no realistic counter to it apart from using exploits to place summoners in âsafe spotsâ (which arenât really safe).
You can complain all you want about this not achieving any of blizzards claimed goal of this policy change, and you may very well be right, but I doubt youâll ever get much sympathy from many non-multiboxers. You can thank a minority of multiboxers for that.
Donât fool yourself, no one except multiboxers think what they are doing is fair in any way. Itâs weird, itâs pay2win, itâs even weirder that it was even allowed in the first place. Most multiboxers I have ran into have been nice, helped me out, buffed me, but that doesnât change the fact that what they are doing has no place in an MMO. Go play a single player game if you want to cheese content like that.
A dude being a numpty and griefing others is a differnt matter entirely, you annoyed because itâs one dude doing this, would you not be equally annoyed if an entire raid group of individuals pitchedup and didt it.
No excuse to behave like a jerk and bully others, I agree that is terrible behaviour.
I myslef fall into the category of the guy with 3 Toons running a dungeon and trying to âsoloâ a raid.
Iâm not trying to call the victim, and I can understand why a lot of the community donât like multi boxes, and thatâs fine, weâre all welcome to dislike certain things and we donât have to agree with it. Just like I donât agree with Blizz stance on this.
Again there is blame on the multi boxer damaging an economy, letâs not confuse a multi boxer, with a botter/gold farmer.
Multiboxers generally are 3 to 5 man teams and while they could farm a significant amount of resource materials it wouldnât be enough to ruin an economy as you say. God Farmers with 10 to 15 druids each flying around herbing/mining Star Firing and skinning probably do. They only do it to feed the gold buyers/ PvP side of it I wouldnât know to be honest Iâm not much of a PvPâer, but I can imagine the impact it may have.
HOWEVER, on a PVP aspect, in all the PVP I did ( which is not a lot) I did not run into a single Multiboxing team. My grievance with WâPvP was the 110 Twink in legion mythic raiding gear and maxed out azerite sets griefing highly geared level 120âs doing world quests not run into them since level squish but then Iâm happy about that
Scroll up. Already explained it. Because you have no clue what youâre talking about.
And you going back to talking about bots and gold buyers is yet again a pathetic attempt at whataboutism. You should all be banned. They donât exonerate you.
âweâve seen an increasingly negative impact to the game as multi-boxing broadcasting software is used to support botting and automated gameplayâ
What this change REALLY means though:
Some legitimate MB players will quit the game (me)
Some legitimate MB players will reduce accounts down to 1
Some legitimate MB players will go to private servers
Some bots/gold sellers will get banned, but understand this, most donât use multi-boxing software, they use fully automated software packages that control a single WoW instance, practically un-detectable
Bots/gold sellers that got banned will get better software and remake new accounts
A lot of bot/gold sellers will continue in the game undetected
The majority of the WoW community seeâs the change as a positive one but in 6 months time you will all still have the same issues you always had (with bots/economy), you will have just lost a bunch of legit subscribers to an ever dying player base (think its under 1 million now).
No, thatâs to be expected on a pvp server. Itâs also alot harder to organise and time perfectly. Therefore doesnât happen as often. On earthshaker I can remember it happening once. Multiboxers on the other hand have been having their fun pretty much every week since the release of bwl (February).
If the software used for either botting, gold farming (with the intent of selling) or gold laundering is the same as the software being used for ânormalâ multiboxing, there is no good reason not to ban it.
Do you play classic? This thread is in the classic part of the forums, and I suspect the impact of multiboxers in classic and retail is quite different.
Nobody said the problems would be solved. It will however be mitigated. Since the multiboxers will be gone, so the impact they do have on the economy will disappear.
Everyone has an impact on the economy. Multiboxers just have a slightly larger one than the average Joe Player though.
You still keep going with your whataboutism to try and deflect the blame for what youâve done, eh?
I donât know your experience there so I donât know the extent of the problem, with Multibox griefing in BWL
Arguing the software is bannable regardless of who is using it, is like arguing with someone about gun control in the US, All guns kill so should they not all be banned? Same as drink driving, Alcohol is the problem, should alcohol be banned?
Yes I play classic, and tbh I do see a lot more multiboxers here in classic than I do on my retail realms, I also referenced my experience in Retail, as this is where I have spent more time playing recently. Waiting for Naxx.
This is just a topic we can all agree to not agree with each other. We all have different opinions and experiences and we donât have to like it.
I honestly donât get how my girlfriend and me doing ZG and Aq20 raids by ourselves has hurt anybodyâs playing experience.
We would greatly appreciate if multiboxing was still allowed in wow classic, as multiboxing has provided us with the most fun raiding experience we ever had in WoW. Even though the bat boss in ZG still resists our kill attempts
Can we have our account white-listed anywhere?
Normal raiding und multiboxed raiding are NOT the same experience, getting rid of either one takes away an integral part of the game (WoW Classic) for us. The complete and utter chaos a simple AoE Fear causes to a group of multiboxed characters is amazingly stressful and fun at the same time.
And i donât even understand what this change improves for your cheat detection mechanic, thereâs still programs (overlays etc.) hooking into your executable left and right, is there not?
Aaand more deflecting. Sorry, but youâre the one refusing to acknowledge the issues multiboxing has caused, and instead rely on whataboutism to distract people with bots and gold sellers/buyers, like it would somehow exonerate multiboxing.
That isnât how it works.
You feeling the need to write that out is seriously weird though.
Also, your misinformation campaign and martyr act is still just as disgusting.
@Exëqtr: Ummm⊠EU alone has more than a million players, US adds a similar amount, then Russia, Taiwan, Korea and China on top of those. You have to keep in mind that Shadowlands has already sold over three million copies and there are pure Classic players on top of that figure.
@All: As for the primary topic⊠Software is being banned, but small amounts of characters are multiboxable by just alt tabbing between different windows and those people, who are honest multiboxers will retain that option.
To quote what Blizzard actually said: âWe will soon begin issuing warnings to all players who are detected using input broadcasting software to mirror commands to multiple accounts at the same time (often used for multi-boxing).â
Connecting one mouse and keyboard to 5 different PCs isnât using broadcasting software nor does it mirror commands.
Itâs literally the exact same command issued to 5 separate computers. Doing this wont register under Blizzardâs anti-botting scans and each incident (if there actually are any cases of people actually using multiple computers) would require actual GM investigation.
How many have said that to you over the past year?
not run into them since level squish but then Iâm happy about that 