Premade PvP will make people quit classic WoW

I actually love the people that I work with, but I dont like having to co-operate with customers.

And as I said in our previous argument, I don’t treat WoW like work and I don’t know where you got that idea.

I treat WoW as a game, a game where co-operation with others gives you an advanatage, but you’re certainly not forced into it. A game where I can pick and choose who I want to play with.

If I spoke like I was “Blizzard”, I wouldn’t post on this board at all.

Further more, I’m not defending Blizzard, I’m defending the playerbase. The people whose game you’re trying to ruin with your notions of “fairness”.

If you want fair, go to retail. That’s just the cold and plain reality of life, not everything is suited for you.

I used to play vanilla and there was fairness.Here the game is not the same admit it and stop saying ‘‘That’s just the cold and plain reality of life’’ cause its hilarious :stuck_out_tongue: and no i wont play retail my dude i stoped at wrath of the lich king.You from the other hand playin retail so u can go back where u came from.Really before classic come online in battlenet by blizzard what you were playing?

No, there wasn’t. The game was the exact same as it is now, the playerbase was different. You weren’t playing with people with 15 years of WoW experience back then. You weren’t playing with people with years of MMORPG experience either.

You were playing with people new to the game, some new to the genre entirely.

Admit what? The game is the same.

The playerbase is different.

Only a fool would deny that.

The word I would have used is “accurate”.

Ah yes, good on WoTLK. The first of the socialist expensions where content became accessible and Blizzard started holding people’s hands through things.

I’ve played every expansion; some more than others. Some multiple times over.

Know what that gives me? An accurate view of everything. I’ve seen change first hand and I’ve seen the results of it.

A mix of games, the same mix that I still play. I’ve played every expansion of Wow, I’ve played private server versions of WoW. I’ve played a lot of LoL and games like W3. And lately, I’ve just jumped into playing the remake version of Final Fantasy 7.

A premade nolifer calling people asocial ? Thats rich. Why don’t you want to fight other premades ? You’re worried you won’t be able to exploit all those randoms and you’ll taste your own medicine ? You’re the fool here.

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There are some things blizzard could do but its not worth talkin the boat sailed already.Old blizzard had better execution with vanilla than nowdays blizzard with classic besides the fact of different era and community.Its a big talk on particular things but whatever some people just dont want even to see…

Old Blizzard had a different vision for the game than what new Blizzard have.

Older Blizzard wanted to expand the game into something that more people would like to play and buy. New Blizzard have expressed a desire to keep Classic as an authentic recreation of the old Game.

If Blizzard wish to expand on something, they have retail to work on.

Premade vs premade queues would be a lot closer to vanilla. The only ones who are against it are players in bad premades because they would lose every single game. Players in good premades and pug players are in davor of premadd vs premade queues. Bad players are sadly bombarding these threads with lies and misinformation. They have to because after the implementation they are the ones farmed at the graveyard.

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alright so say i wanna pvp with my friends, how do i do that then?
oh wait i forgot, i am suppose to be a loner and enjoy the “casual” pvp where people run around like headless chickens, ignoring the objectives, all because YOU dislike premades.
gtfo or join a premade yourself, but more importantly; stop crying.

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Your observation is correct, lots of these no’lifers in premades are typically not decent players(even some high rankers, are clueless in 1v1s if you catch them alone).

The good players/premades, wouldn’t mind Premade vs Premade queues as they are skilled, able to coordinate under pressure and will defeat these bad premades.

The trolls however require their Premade vs Pugs or they wouldn’t be able to climb in ranking(as they would likely suck in pugs as well). That’s why they are defending it(on the forums etc) as if their life depended upon it, because it sadly does.

Beware/Miylee being the obvious trolls to put on your ignore lists.

Like i’ve said many times it was never about the premade for them but the honor/hour. That’s why they will surrender the fight if up against a better premade so that a new game vs pugs will open up faster.

So again this system is currently rewarding unemployment, it has very little to do with skill(those rare cases where the premade actually consists of skilled players,). These ‘‘noobs’’ simply have the time to create a functional Premade setup(i.e healers, arms warriors) and stomp unorganized pugs.

TL;dr Classic PvP, AB/WSG(Premade) is currently a Joke, mostly clowns will defend it(as been revealed in this thread by their blatant stupidity unable to provide a single factual point, just distortions & dishonesty)

The correct solution would be a premade vs premade queue, pug vs pug queue as thankfully most agree should happen. At the very least a 5 player Max join limit, would be consistent with AV fix and is something i could see Blizzard realistically doing.

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I don’t treat WoW like work and I don’t know where you got that idea
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Ehm… 1435 posts? You think this is a standard for everyone?

1.4k posts, how long has this board been active? Over a year. That’s like 3 posts a day.

That isn’t much.

I feel sad for you… goodbye

I agree the premadess are going to make alot of players quit the game… The ones who are defending it are the sad ones who feel so mighty when they GY farm the poor pugs who dont even put a fight and cant win against another premade… What fun is there in stomping repeatedly someone undergeared?

Afterall you play in Conquest. Environments where people run aroud like headless chicken seem very familiar to you.

Also, you’re the person with the most threads complaining about AV premades. Now you tell others to stop crying. Interesting.

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You have no reason to pity me.

You spent your whole last year lying in a WoW forum. Maybe he has a point.

I just wanted to Play premade in AV with my 39 friends, but now i cant because you were crying over losing in 7 min…

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I haven’t told any lies, nor did I spend an entire year. I think I spend around 15 minutes a day on average here, that’s less time than some spend on the toilet.

You completely lost the point. No one wants to ban premades, we just want Blizzard to fix toxic BGs. Queue premade vs premade and pugs vs pugs. You will still be able to “pvp” with your friends :slight_smile:

There are tons of threads similiar to this.

  1. There was no xrealm PvP in vanilla, it was added in P6 (we have P3 now), so remove it.

  2. Premade defenders say that pugs are miniority. Lets say that you are right than you don’t have to worry, because your queues will stay the same and pug queues will be longer.

3.BGs at the moment are toxic, boring and soulless. Pugs already adapted and when they see same enemy premades over and over again they just die and go afk as soon as game starts. They don’t even res so enemies can’t GY farm.

I have few days left of my subscription so I am gonna play, but currently BGs are as fun and exciting as farming Black Lotus :slight_smile: No fun = no money, so if Blizzard won’t announce that they will try to fix it I am leaving classic (and my friends will do the same thing).