PVP and Premades in this Pandemic

Anybody that believes in the philosophy of a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game will believe that friends should be able to play with friends.

However, Classic is a different beast. The amount of premades today and min-maxing gaming culture does not resemble how it was back then. That’s why Classic feels so unnatural.

I agree it’s a problem. But you shouldn’t be punished for wanting to play with your friends. They have to find a solution for this which wouldn’t completely destroy playing as a group, but at the same time allow the casual gamer to stand a chance in a BG.

Nobody enjoys premade vs PUG. The premade may enjoy the juicy honor they are receiving, but nobody can argue that it is fulfilling gameplay. For either side.

Not my experience this weekend. Played a mix of WSG and AB, around 30 games I had 3 premades. Perhaps I was lucky.

Where do you get punished? It will be the same for good premades and bad premades have a reason to improve instead of dodging orher premades to farm pugs on the graveyeard. Its a win-win for everybody. Pug players will still make much less honor than any decent premade but atleast they would be able to play the game.

Did you buy the degree at Walmart?
It is possible that one person considers something fun and engaging, while the other finds it boring and tedious.

Please, for the love of god, dont try to make yourself something you are obviously not.

What is up with your language? ZULUL and LULW. What does that even mean?

Go to AV…

shut up your boring trying to be smart , maybe post something about pvp not trying to aim hate at someone .

Better to try and be smart than to try and be an idiot. A lesson you might want to consider learning.

It’s “you’re”, short for “you are”. I did post about the PvP part, you missed it but I guess that’s what happens when you don’t read a thread in full.

I did a lot of thinking on this and finally I am there: I think premading should be entirely forbidden. Yes, I know this is a change from ‘true vanilla’, but so is X-bg. And tbh, everything else about classic.

A real ranker could still distern himself by just… contributing more to the BG. And most importantly, investing a lot of time (which tbh is ALL which vanilla was about).

Boring? I think its more boring sitting in a game lobby not being able to talk to anyone in the party on discord :smiley: Done premades yesterday with a /2 channel group and was actually fun, try it :smiley:

Premades are toxic af and so are the honor cap rackets, this game is Soooo far removed from being a recreation of vanilla wow it’s ridiculous how toxic this community is.

Those things all existed back in the day too.

You’re talking nonsense, Cross realm didn’t even exist until the late stages of vanilla. You would never see 10 premades right after one another in vanilla. And rackets and collusion, probably was a bit of this going on on certain realms but now it’s way out of hand thanks to the addon Honorspy and the toxic PVP community.

So therefore it existed in Vanilla.

Yes, you would.

You saw ALL of those things in Vanilla, if you paid attention.

You’re clueless troll.

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With an attitude as poor as that, you might want to re-think who you call toxic.

No you wouldnt, not on the server i played on, and i did play all the bg’s often back in vanilla, got to rank 11 before i said enough is enough, and i always solo queued.

Just because YOU didn’t experience something doesn’t mean that said thing didn’t exist.

But YOU said ‘yes you would’ just because you might have does not mean you are right.

I experienced it firsthand in vanilla, did you ?

Nice try. I said “you would” as in the possibility was there and some people did.

Premading wasn’t as wide spread and common as back in the day, but it still existed. Everything that players do now, people did back in the day.

What’s really changed about Vanilla and now is simply how people play. The top 10% from back then are probably on par with around 60-70% of today’s players. Made up statistics of course, but you get the point.

You can’t alter the game and all of it’s features to try and mimic the inefficient way the people of old played.