You can solo farm sublime wristguards, and can get to dm north through back entrznce and suiciding then enter dmn as ghost. (Only need to do this once) then you can freely solo dogs and guards and reset as many times as you want without ever engaging in pvp
And that’s about all you can do 
What a thinly veiled PVP whine. Everyone knew what happens on PVP servers. If you were unhappy with that, you should have rolled PVE.
Are you honestly claiming this is similar to how it was on vanilla realms? Seriously?
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What a thinly veiled PVP whine. Everyone knew what happens on PVP servers. If you were unhappy with that, you should have rolled PVE.
I didn’t.
I mean - I thought I knew.
I don’t play much of anything anymore but I got excited about wow being relaunched classic so I decided to start playing. I also have noticed that gaming communities have become more toxic particularly in the last decade, but I honestly underrestimated how much. I’m honestly surprised.
I think it’s odd that blizzard didn’t take it into account though.
I would have thought they were very aware of how toxic their player base were and that they would have had some kind of plan for the situation we have now.
Afterall - They’re professional and have a vested interest in knowing how their players play and what they want. I really doubt THIS is what people want.
Personally I very much like PvP. It was the only reason I played in the past.
But that doesn’t mean I’m actively going out of my way to ruin the game for others. That’s not what most people USED to do.
I’ve played older mmos with free PvP where you can actually loot other players and take their gear and belongings. Not even there did people go on mindless lowbie killing spree’s. You would actually expect to be held up and demanded to pay a fee to not get killed. A robbery, infact. It was quite common.
In wow , however, there not a single point to go lowbie killing.
It is 100% for griefing with no reward.
Still there’s SO much of it it’s almost unbelievable to me.
The game is currently entirely broken. I’m certain everyone see’s that - Even those of us who generally enjoy PvP.
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Its unfair the accuse Vaeyn of being brainless for having the forsight to know that this would happen on PvP realms
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This is mostly caused by overpopulation 5-8 times as many players per realm as in Vanilla can camp the whole map. And the more the toxicer.
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Its true. If people just rolled pve. But who would then play on PvP? Would those server actually survive?
Time will tell i guess, we will start to see another dip in subs (Thanks to pvp and or other issues) and maybe some server will be all horde.
Thankfully the game has a duel system 
I would want to, if blizzard just gives us the option to transfer. Noway in hell am I “starting over” with 3 months time invested now. Problem is, blizz wont do this, as it would empty the servers.
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Empty the PvP servers and burst the PvE servers 
Yes it would. The solution is simple:
Make more PvE servers: 2 dedicated to refugees from PvP with free transfer. and 2 with free transfer from existing PvE servers.
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You’d need a time machine to get your personal vanilla experience again. This ain’t vanilla, it’s classic, a simulation of vanilla only. Two different beasts: different realms and tech, different launch, different players, different attitudes. There’s no going back, classic is its own thing.
WPvP on classic is a gankathon. Your choice to participate or not. Fair warning was given before layering was removed.
The main reason for this gankfest is neither the playerbase or the realm tech, its the player caps, a change that while good could have been controlled to avoid the current situation
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Does it matter if you get ganked by 100 or by 10? Same result.
Becuase the old people i used to play with in Vanilla wanted to play a PvP server this time
Yes, but 100 people can be in 10 times 10 places. 10 ppl only in one, leaving you 9 other places not being ganked in.
Ye hehe, good point. I guess I don’t think like a pve’er.
Are you talking about the Horde on Firemaw…?
I hope all alliance quit so all the hipster horde players will have nothing to do.
As if roaming around killing things that can’t do any resistance was fun in the first place.
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The main reason for this gankfest is that people think they do BUT THEY DON’T.
People begged blizzard to bring this diamond back without knowing how timeline and mechanics work.
And ofcourse they yelled DONT CHANGE ANYTHING!!! LEAVE IT AS IT IS!!! Leave us another month without battlegrounds cuz blizzlike
The problem was that Blizzard did changes things, very fundamental things. Which are now the root cause of the current issue. No one is complaining about PvP, or wPvP. If the faction ballance and the server sizes had been Vanilla style i don’t think this would even be a topic.
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