I am on Alliance … it takes no skill to be part of a premade let me guess you people that say git gud would be the 1500 rated players in arena and rated bgs in retail from tbc to recent?
People will quit thats the problem you classic players are pretty stupid tbh you legit have been given the easiest to play classic patch nerfed raids/dungeons everything is easy and yet you want to kill the rest of the pvp community because you want to play pvp like its pve i get you people think that your game is hard and that you are accomplishing something but there is many of us that will just log in once per week to complete easy mode raids to have the same gear as you get from playing 12 hours a day for in the end.
If i play pvp for 5 hours a day and want to compete in the honor grind i want to face other players like myself not some sweaty kid sitting at their pc for 15 hours a day in premades getting more honor than a solo player can in 35 hours.
But sure if you want people to quit they will the playerbase is already dropping have fun making a new character in the future when the servers begin to die and there is only 1-2 that havea good community.
I remember the reason you guys wanted classic servers it was to feel accomplished when you achieve something unlike retail and for content to be harder but look at you all abusing things to get stuff with no effort put in by yourself.
Go ahead and quit, that will fix the problem. Reroll ally or f.off, stop crying on forums noone cares about you getting stomped by premades.
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We will quit mr step into the arena 2010 glad you are finally doing well in pvp now and grinding more honor than actual players on alliance that want to pvp have fun buddy
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Ahh the old logic of the wintrader we are not cheating guys we are just queue up at the same time to face each other and only 1 team is going to win guess they also allow this in arena/rbgs on retail too?
Its not queue up to face this team for rating we just queue at the same time and happen to get into the same game its not our fault?
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you didn’t get your a$$ here when horde dominated the world pvp and complained about it, and now your zug zug doesnt seem is going to save you.
zug zug all you want horde scum or get your own horde zug premade, i just love how you wait 40mins when we get our 3 sec queue and all you get is a lose under 10 mintues.
hey rat, why are you an orc? why are you playing with the horde?
no more questions, enjoy AV vs premades, bye
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You are right, when it was the other way round and alliance players were being farmed into the ground, by overwhelming numbers to the point of being GY camped, there were a lot of posts on the forum about it.
What did blizzard do about it? Because they are going to do the same about the current game status 
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Human was dps masterrace in MoP though. You got more PvP power which led to already unhealable dmg.
PvP power was kinda uselessas gear was limited to level 550 (assumin last phase), SoO hc geared could oneshot you in the open world. Human advantage is to equip both the on-use and the proc trinket for twice the main stat.
Pve gear was utter bad in PvP. You MAYBE used a piece just to get the extra gem slots (rogues had some gloves and warrior tusk) which were both somewhat viable.
The bonus of human was to equip both dps trinkets, yes. The 2.5k pvp power on each made the difference. You didnt have any on your trinket which you needed for any other race than human. There was also no main stat on your trinkets, it was only pvp power tho. The proc / on use was your main stat
I hope this goes mainly for arena because open world was unbalanced af anyway.
I know man its why i said i went ally in mop but was undead before ^
Stop discussion about premade plz. It is not a problem. Main problem is imbalanced map for horde advantage.
Map have to rework and allies players will return to that BG and allies premades will be uncreatable.
First time of waiting was 5-6 mins for horde. Now it is about 30-40 mins. That is the problem.
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“Git gud”
The irony is astounding.
What are you even talking about here lmao
Retail is that way->
Best argument i have ever seen.
I dont even play classic, because I imagined how it would go.
The way I see it you have several options, but Blizzard won’t change a damn thing, nor should they, #nochanges and all.
- Deal with it, go for max honor and queue again
- Quit the game
- Reroll Alliance
- Zug Zug
And remember dear Horde players, you only have yourselves to blame. You decided to go to the overcrowded faction, likely because Horde due to hilariously overpowered racials became the go to faction on Retail. If the factions were even, you could form premades too. In actual Vanilla Alliance was the more popular faction :).
Enjoy getting farmed pigmen and cows and co.
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You know what let them change the Q in AV and give a Q as group button when they add a population balance feature. So take your pick a Q for AV or to log in. And while we are at it put elite guards next to all flight masters in the world Alliance and Horde.
Honestly you get opposition in ONE battle ground and you can’t deal with it.
I agree, they should stop premades. 8 mins in AV and we were still 7 vs 40 ! they won without any effort. It’s almost like cheating. Either stop premades or fix the damn BG so it doesn’t start unless there are 35 vs 40 players at least !
I still love it how all the Alliance players in Classic are defending this…
Did you know that an Alliance premade dodging queues is almost making sure that the people that do get mixed into that game always lose?
Do you think Alliance players like to be in a 7v40 game because of the Alliance premades not joining?
This week Blizzard even posted a change for Classic that made sure cave farming isn’t allowed anymore.
They never intended this to be a thing now and back in the day.
This falls under that same category!
AV is ment to be played with all random people! Not a premade group on Discord all joining the same number!