You are pathetic dude. “and nobody that played on that server had really any issues with it” People to this day are crying about that horde had better racials and they couldn’t play alliance.
You are delusional.
What makes me delusional? The fact that I don’t cry about things but find ways to adept and overcome them?
How do you know there was nobody really having any complains about it on my server, did you play on the same server as I did?
Nobody had a problem with it, cause all the people crying had already quit the game or rerolled on another server.
If you come across a problem, don’t think it’s the Apocalypse right away but search for ways to overcome the problem and definitely do not scream something is impossible until you’ve tried all possibilities for solutions.
If you don’t want to overcome problems, go play Retail where everything is catered and even a Baby can get to max level.
Dude if you have no time to play and you rolled on PvP; that’s your own fault. Do what I do: Run dungeons to level up. Yeah BRM is a pain atm but just deal with it. If you don’t have time to do that then level up a few alts and by the time you have them all to 20 or so BGs will be out. There’s a lot more content to pass the time with than just trying to quest when WPvP is chaotic atm.
Because back then the insanity of massmurder corpsecamping didnt exist.
Right now on some realms you cant even get to a dungeon. You get killed the second you land, and on top of that you get camped. Not by 1 or 2 players being bored? No! By entire raids.
It is not pvp. In pvp you can fight back. You cant fight back when you are heavily outnumbered. You just die. again and again and again. Even if you spirit res you get killed.
Has nothing to do with pvp.
Back in the day these things just didnt happen. Only when a mc/bwl raid was gathering, the waiting part would have some “fun”. It lasted maybe 30mins. And the game resumed to normal, with normal skirmishes 1v1 1v2.
Having SG/BL wpl/epl under comeplete lockdown for hours and hours has nothing to do with pvp.
I dont hope BG’s will be x-realm. Because i want you to complain and cry about 4 hour queues to BG’s because the other faction left the realm.
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If you don’t want to overcome problems, go play Retail where everything is catered and even a Baby can get to max level.
First of all Classic is 100 times easier game than retail.
Second of how the heck you want me to overcome my “problems” if my problem is that there are too many enemies… ? Should i duplicate myself to fight them and i’m not even lvl60 yet…
19 deaths and i’m finally in Blackrock Depths… Sound like a fun to you ?
I really can’t wait for BGs. I can see already all those threads by horde “f*** THIS GAME I HAVE TO WAIT 2H IN BG Q”.
Sure you will wait if now you tell ppl to leave pvp servers.
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Leveling my alt quite happily.
Play PvE - you were told!
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No mass murders? Are you sure about that? Cause I’ve seen many mass murders back in the day. City raids of hundreds (literally hundreds!) of Horde coming to SW and IF trying to kill the Kings (including huge lag fest cause of so many people at the same place, computers freezing cause of it etc)
I have seen groups of 10 or 20 players kill entire raids and even two raids combined.
BRM was ALWAYS being camped by players (mostly Rogues) waiting for people to go to the dungeons and killing them on the way or just annoying them with CC’s.
It was very common at some point, that either entire Horde or Alliance guilds would be waiting on raid nights in PvP gear to gank the opposing faction on their way to a raid instance.
One time we even outplayed 2 Horde guilds waiting for my guild to come to a raid, as everyone was going with their PvP spec and PvE gear equipped to fool any scouts on the way slaughtering both guilds right in front of the raid instance after we also switched to our PvP gear right before going into the fight.
City raids where a weekly thing, while us Alliance were mostly on the defending side racking up tons of honor from all the Horde coming to our city. It wasn’t hard either when they tried to come with the tram, all getting AOE killed right after they entered the city through the portal.
Well first off all, when I started playing back in Vanilla I had already learned very soon that it could be pretty normal to ghost/corpse run towards a instance while leveling. Was it fun to do? No, but it was a solution on still being able to level and get some gear.
It was only fun at certain times, when we were the ones farming the Horde trying to run to a instance and making them ghost/corpse run towards it.
It was part of the game and it was something people adapted to and overcame as Blizzard couldn’t do much about the balance issues.
If Classic is 100 times easier then Retail, why are you here complaining you can’t do anything? Isn’t Classic 100 times easier then Retail? So should be 100 times easier to overcome “problems” in Classic too.
If you don’t like P2, either wait it out and go play Retail till P3 or adept and overcome to the current situation.
Stating stuff like “Normal players can’t do anything” is bullsh* cause I consider myself a “Normal/Casual player” these days. (I’m not level 60 yet, I don’t play 16 hours a day, I don’t even play every day) Yet hear I am, not having any issues with P2 since I already knew what was going to happen before I rolled on a PvP server.
So let me tell you in advance right now, BRM will ALWAYS be camped by players waiting for people to come level in a dungeon or get gear from the dungeons and you will get killed there A LOT even at level 60.
So suck it up and deal with it or go play another game like Retail.
You are comparing apples to oranges here m8.
What is going on right now cant even remotely be compared to vanilla days (except ss - tm)
Raiding a city cant be compared to having raids camping entire zones.
Having guilds fighting it out in brm for bragging rights “HA! We won the right to start raiding first” Or the usual rogues camping for kills here and there. CAN NOT! be compared to having multiple raids camping both BS and SG from flight path to the entrance. Be it MC or BRD. Making it impossible for the other faction to even get to the instance in under an hour (if they dont just disband and log out)
THAT! is what is going on right now on alot of realms. 1 faction are straight up denied gameplay of any kind.
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Stop dramatizing, yes it’s chaotic currently at a lot of places but that’s part of P2 and you can’t expect people to play these days like they did 15 years ago when most people didn’t even have a freaking clue on what gear is BiS for their class.
Most people didn’t even use hotkeys for their skills, mouse clicking everything…
Add-ons? That seemed to have been rocket science for a lot of people…
I know there are a lot of experienced Alliance players on Razorgore and the PvP’ers on the Alliance are a lot more organized then the Horde side. (don’t even think Horde is organized among each other at all currently…)
How come I don’t see them complaining, but having fun instead and really enjoying themselves if I have to believe everyone on Discord?
The balance seems to favor Alliance a little even, compared to Horde but no one has official numbers so it’s more of a estimate.
I couldn’t do much for 4 hours straight on P2 launch night, as I was constantly being overwhelmed by Alliance raids or groups of level 60 Alliance players in Felwood. Did I go to the forums saying “QQ I can’t do anything” ?
No, I made use of the opportunity to gain some honor (gained quite a bit actually) and managed to kill 19 level 60 players while I was still level 55.
Now suck up to the situation and adept to it or go play something else is my advice to you.
Me killing them, made all my corpse running worth it as I gained a lot more honor from them as they gained from me by killing me in raids and groups.
A lot of ppl is not going to “suck up” if it not fun for them, so some will cancel their suscriptions, which is not good. Posts and attitudes like the quoted one do not help. Blizzard has to do something or they risk losing some considerable income. In vanilla this WPVP thing was not as intense is it is now. I only saw a significant amount of WPVP in blackrock mountain.
If they can’t suck up to it, they should go play another game like Retail instead of complaining on the forums asking Blizzard to do anything about it.
Blizzard did stuff about it and Retail is the result of it.
It’s crap like this which is called catering to casuals.
What’s fun to the people who barely plays is very different from the ones who puts in the grind to get what they want no matter how long it takes.
Classic is a game that’s basically designed for things to take time. Everything takes time. If you want the Action RPG kind of gameplay then you can find that in Diabl-- oh sorry, meant BfA.
The reason why it’s designed to take time is to enforce the intrinsic reward loop and to make it feel more like an adventure, which is why you will be punished if you don’t face the challenge and just cry about it which so many people are doing now.
1-I plaued vanilla, TBC and left WoW in wotlk, resuscribed for classic.
2-I play in a PVE server, so I’m not affected.
With that said, I think Blizzard should enable ASAP PVP to PVE transfers so these players can escape this ganking you find so fun and professional.
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To lose is supposed to make you want to win. It’s the crybaby quitters who just whines about it instead of actually trying to overcome the challenge.
They’re better off not playing classic.
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Wrong. They should be in a PVE server. Blizzard should help them.
Wait so Blizzard should give everyone free transfers for mistakes they made themselves?
If I make a mistake, are you going to fix my mistake or would you tell me how to fix it and maybe help me learn from my mistake?
People that rolled on a PvP server and regretting their decision should either suck it up or re-roll on a PvE server but don’t go crying to Blizzard about their own mistake. It’s not like they’re losing 10 years of time investment.
I’m pretty sure Blizzard will prefer to help their customers to recover from a mistake rather than losing them. Common sense also says that a casual player that today is not yet 60, will not try to level again another character, they don’t have time for that.
In case you haven’t noticed it already, Blizzard has been actively pushing players to BfA since the launch of Classic.
They earn more from successfully getting the people quitting Classic to go over to BfA than they do to just give up what they could profit from later (the realm transfers) by giving them a free “haven” of no PvP on PvE realms which they never invested that much in anyway.
They also show “player engagement” to their different products in their annual reports, and BfA has been falling short while Classic boosted the numbers by a lot. So now they want to capitalize on that, by getting the casuals from Classic to go over to BfA.
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What do you mean they don’t have time for that? How long ago is Classic released?
Where is the game going after P6? Nowhere
People not even being level 60, crying about P2 are acting like they’ve already invested 10 years into their character and it’s impossible for them to start over.
The fact they aren’t even 60, proves they haven’t invested much time into the game yet and shouldn’t bother asking for anything.