The end of Wow classic for normal players?

I want to see this Horde retards saying “go to PVE servers” when BGs will go out. You will wait in q 1-2h cuz there will be no alliance at all. You idiots it’s not about getteing killed! We literally can’t play the game! Make an alliance character and see yourself before you speak.
They (Blizzard) should have thought about it and create some kind of a cap. Where there couldn’t be more than ~55% players of one fraction on each server.

There is a solution please take the time to support it - New PvE server please - (Solution to PvP issues) - #5 by Zordimaru-pyrewood-village

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the pve content lasted longer back then… because we werent full of 15 years knowledge prior, also with the size of streaming today compared to back then.

today we are far more connected, by things such as Discord to allow us to instantly find other players with the same objectives, i aint saying it was a complete replicia of what the game was back then… Most peoples PCs would have never held up in WPVP Like today .

i aint too dumb to see their perspective, the stupidity was a Expectation of this not happening rolling on a PvP Server, when we all knew pve content progression would end in the first week.

i think the Accusation is, “Empathy for their situation”… and No i dont. I understand their perspective, i also understand that their solution was to pick a PvE Server… with the mentality of the players in Vanilla, how they didnt think this would happen i dont know.

i stopped playing ALONG time ago, because i fell behind the curve, and Expected this to become the norm Straight away. because when u unleash millions of players with a Large chunk of them intending to Smash max level ASAP Smash content ASAP on a Patch with large amounts avaliable content to farm.

it was obvious the Full mode players would Rush down BiS Armour… to then start corpsecamping / Farming / City raiding.

In orginal vanilla ofcourse this didnt happen. because the game was treated very differently to what it is today. but that doesnt make this situation any less predictable.

Take Retail WoW for example… u wanna know Players reaction to the anniversery event?

to sit in Caverns of Time and Endlessly Corpsecamp the players trying to participate. there was huge threads to the piling bodies in the caverns of time During the release of the event.

welcome to player mentality in 2019, and Remember you aint gonna Restore us to our Gaming mentality in 2004, World of Warcraft Orginal Vanilla, Was a time when we were all brand new all trying to the classes out all exploring… all working together.

today. We murder each other, because trolling someones More important. Vanilla WoW will never achieve 2 things

  • How bad you were at the game.
  • The mentality you played with in 2004.

Vanilla WoW was never going to rectify todays mentality in a game and i dont understand why people thought it would. our approach to the rerelease to WoW Vanilla shows How much we’ve changed as a Community in how we play the game. there are HUGE differences in what we had in Vanilla to todays Replicia.

  • Exploration, at one point these maps and more were brand new, the side quests were brand new, the story was brand new. today it isnt and players were bursting the levelling paths to get to 60 ASAP.
  • New Player problems, We had no clue what we were doing. which made content take longer. as we died more regularly. got stuck more regularly.
  • Addons were not as Known when we first started i know they became a thing during vanilla… but at the start when they were just started being developed they arent as wide spread as today. you didnt get every player using addons to try speed proccesses up such as Quest finders and more
  • game knowledge, we understand vanilla now 100x better then before, we have tactics to all the raid bosses. we have knowledge of the fastest ways to get through content. and avaliable resources to find Groups and Raids much easier then orginally.
  • PC/Internet quality. We have faster PCS able to handle WAAY More People in the same place, we Dont lag and disconnect like we used to, our internets are MUCH Faster and our Pings are much Lower. meaning WPVP Raids can now be Bigger then they were once.
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we know u cant.

for the first day there were tons of alliance who couldnt play the anniversery event because the same things were happening. And ur asking for changes after we spent MONTHS demanding #NOCHANGES. you cant restrict players freedoms that’d kill WoW Classic… not improve it. as it’d prevent people like asmongold and more playing with their friends.

but theres not a fix for it, they’re not gonna change a entire TOS because of it, it’d only anger Players and they cant handle bad press right now as they’re recovering from the last boycott they suffered from their prior problem.

and theres no way, the alliance on Asmongolds Server is the Lower Population. he even said it, The horde presence on his servers are Minimal. because of the overflowing population of his Viewers all playing alliance with him.

the problem is with Server Staticaly remaining alone with 0 cross play, now the faction imbalances are REAL Consequences, which defintly does affect things such as this. but its too late now to try go back and force players off their servers to Equal this out.

wow have continously pushed out free server transfers, if the numbers on your server are that Skewed try moving to one of the newer servers. they would hjave been created AFTER the outpour so these players with the “GO FAST” mindsets arent on there.

sadly, reguardless when they release content early or late it’ll annoy one side of a Playerbase… so they can only go on majorities realistically, they cant appease every player with changes.

they said they’d drop phase 2 when the servers got small enough in population to remove phasing, which they clearly have, Showing that there was ALOT Of players that didnt survive the levelling process BEFORE it became a World Ganking party.

but it also shows the activity was going down… meaning those that werent all that interested past the hype have now gone and the people sat at 60 are bored with not much left to do… phase 2 was the Solution for a Majority. but yes these changes will hurt a Portion of the players. like EVERY change.

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I mean… “Balancing” the game so that streamers can play with all their viewers is dumb imo. On my realm there is ~68% horde and it is getting worse because ppl are mad and leaving. Same thing happend to retail and they didn’t learn from their mistakes.

I personally like cats.

I am very much a cat person. They are very nice to be around, they keep themselves and they purr.

Can you purr, OP? Didn’t think so.

Also, roll PvE or deal with it.

You realize if we all go to PVE servers you will be **** too, right ?

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If more ppl want to go to PvE servers by rerolling there then Blizzard will open new PvE servers for them, the whole reason that there are so many PvP servers is that a lot of people thought they are a lot tougher then they really are and rolled on PvP instead of being smart like me and rolling on PvE!

It’s important to know where you belong, so know your place whiners and reroll to PvE, since you weren’t smart enough to start on PvE in the first place!

Nope.

gl hf

Jeez… Most ppl just don’t understand what is going on.
You all think we are “crying” because we got killed on a PVP servers… It’s not about it. We are playing on PVP servers because we want to PVP! The thing is on almost all realms Horde outnumbers Alliance. How can i PVP if there are 70% horde players on my realm ???
Does this sound like a “fun” to you… ??? I’m lvl 55 mage and there are ~10-12 60 lvls camping me right now and i can’t even ress sick cuz they are literally next to a graveyard.
PVP is not the problem here. The problem is we are so heavily outnumbered so that we can not fight back. And by saying to ppl “stop crying and go to PVE servers” things will just go worse.

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Well have fun playing on PVP servers then if there will be noone to kill.

No they don’t.

Why not adept to the fact your faction is outnumbered and become a better player because of it?
Back in the day, I played a Human Rogue on a server which was also outnumbered by the Horde, did we complain about it? Some people did, but most of us adept-ed to it and became better players.

I always found it very exciting to fight 1 vs 2 or 1 vs 3 seeing if I could kill them all or take down as many as I could when it was a 1 vs 4 or 1 vs 5/more.
At first I kept losing 1 vs 2’s but at some point I had no trouble fighting them and won more often then I lost also getting me to Rank 12 back then when I wasn’t even trying to rank up.

So you should ask yourself the question, you want to become a better player and adept to certain situations or are you going to cry about every situation that doesn’t give you any advantage in any way?

Nope :slight_smile:

Haha remember how many where crying about it then “your class is OP must get nerfed” lol

If you dare to win 1vs2 it must be your class being OP no way you are skilled and they are potatoes! :laughing:

Seriously some ppl just can’t take loseing in PvP and if they get killed will whine about it one way or the other!

The main problem is that over the years it shows (look at what WoW Retail version is now compared to Classic) that whiners can and will have their way and change games to the worst.

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Yeah, the most crying was during TBC from what I can remember and WotLK was the result of all the tears…
All those tears made me quit back then, cause it simply felt like I was playing a completely different game after the release of WotLK.

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Yep many players left around WotLK, including you and me aswell.

I really hope Blizzard will keep Classic safe from whiners.

I just hope that if Blizzard is going to release TBC and maybe other expansion too within time (I think they won’t go further then WotLK and I expect those server to be dying soon after release too, except for 1 or 2) that they will be separate from each other just like Classic is to Retail right now.

People that will want to play Classic, will be able to play Classic.
People that want to play TBC, will be able to play TBC.
People that want to play WotLK, will probably go to Classic or TBC not long after.
People that want to play Retail, can play retail.

If Blizzard is going to recreate the expansions, not separating them from Classic the game will die within a few years from now.

Are you serious right now… ? “Become a better player” because my faction is outnumbered… ?
I wish i could see you improve your skill when WHOLE RAID is camping your corpses and the other one is camping graveyard. I bet you would become Pro in no time.

Just create Alliance character before you speak and see yourself how does it looks like.

Right now i’m trying to get to Blackrock Depths. Died 14 times already and not even there yet. #fun

I already had that experience back in the day, cause I used to play a Human Rogue with a 34% Alliance, 66% Horde Ratio and nobody that played on that server had really any issues with it. It became a issue once Blizzard decided to merge our realm with another one ending up with a 12% Alliance, 88% Horde ratio after the merge. A lot of people moved to another server cause they didn’t want to merge with another server killing the community we had build among each other over the years.

Before the merge, we had a lot more people on Alliance side with R14 gear then there were Horde players walking around in R14 gear as there was less competition on the Alliance side making it a lot easier for a lot of people to reach Rank 14.

At the launch night of P2, I wasn’t able to continue leveling for 4 hours as I was constantly getting overwhelmed by raid groups or small groups of level 60 players trying to farm some honor.
Did I cry about it? No
Did I rage about it? No
What did I do? I took any opportunity to kill any level 60 trying to kill me and a friend I was with. I got 19 kills and we both got a lot of honor for it.
After things had calmed down again, I went back to questing and gained another half of my level.