Just adding this here as well:
I am aware that a lot of the salty retail players are crusading the classic forums for a while, asking for ridicilous changes, tilting other players, trolling constructive threads etc. for a while.
They seem to have this grudge against classic because their game failed and a lot of retail players quit for classic. They are obviously trying to make classic fail as well with the hope of getting those players back.
It won’t happen. Retail is garbage and it will stay garbage after this point. There is no way to fix it, it is beyond reparation at this point. Sorry to tell ya.
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The more people that comes to TBC the better, I actually want TBC to become bigger than SL and welcome all retail players. And I honestly don’t see many “ridiculous changes” if you refer to the boost?
Many ridiculous changes also come from classic only players, players as players. Who cares if someone enjoy retail, like come on… Such a toxic attitude.
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There are half a hundred threads that is made in the last month after blizzcon asking for LFR, faction change, mount store, wow token, race change, paid boosts to 70 instead of 58, profession boosts for money, gear in the cash shop etc. All you need to do is take your time and have a look at the forums.
Just one example out of many:
There is nothing toxic talking about facts. Stop being this soft victim.
Also, paid boosts to any level for me is unacceptable in a classic MMO. WoW is the most casual-friendly, laid back classic MMO of all times already.
In other MMOs at that time around you lost your entire gear or even character upon dying once. There was absolutely no catch-up mechanisms, none held your hand for anything. Classic boomer MMOs were rough and brutal. You lost months and months of progress just for dying once and had to start over.
Bah…
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You know that a majority of classic players have been playing retail prior to classic release?
Also players asking for new gameplay features in TBC won’t happen. Blizzard has already proven they dont make any changes easily to the game. In some regards they barely dare to change the drums for TBC that many asks for, and you think they would introduce new gameplay systems ?
Get real.
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Haha you are at it again huh?
It is funny and sad at the same time to see you cannot leave the boost for what it is.
Why you make thread after thread after thread to ehine about the boost?
The boost is coming so drop it mate.
I will boost the second the boost comes out
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a very reasonable answer to my points, thank you ^^
yes, botting will get worse but i can see that:
I think it could be worse, because inflation has tendency and i think 500g for a flask could be a thing (with is crazy), but i understand where you are coming from. Its hard to proof one way or the other, time will tell ^^
here is were we disagree i think. I see is as this: If you want to play football but you dont want to run, this is a problem, that will prevent you from playing football. Classic and tbc are pretty old games with a kinda stale of how they are soppose to be played, aka lvling is a part of it in my opinion. Its not the exact sam, but this is how is see or how i feel about it.
I would love to see them, no only because i want to play on them, they will bring an end to this debate, the boost and will atlest push back the bad inflation two years ^^
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thats just equality 
its fine lel
is this so ? i dont know anyone who played retail before, not in my inner circle.
i wish you were true on that, but there is even a post over batachanges ( not sure if this is true ) where the groundwork was layed for, faction change, guild faction change, illusions an d freking transmog. I dont say this is true, but it look pretty real to me.
Almost everyone I have talked to has played sometimes during Cata-SL…
Faction change isn’t a gameplay feature, I would however be very surprised if it was added since it could cause faction imbalance(but not sure on that).
I can’t see Blizzard adding transmog system in TBC, as I said they are worried of the smallest of changes players are asking. Adding a new gameplay feature is just no, I don’t believe it. I would have to be really delusional to think so.
You don’t even need to go that far.
Any reward of any sort will have it’s value reduced whenever you can substitute the effort/time needed with money.
A simple example :
Case A : I give a trophy to the people who manage to climb a given mountain.
Case B : I give a trophy to the people who manage to climb a given mountain but the trophy is also purchasable.
It’s obvious that in case B, the trophy will have much less intrinsic value than in case A.
But people would rather get that dopamine spike now with money rather than enjoy it overtime.
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I played retail as well, but didn’t like many features in retail and ain’t asking for those features to be introduced into classic in any shape or form.
Especially the paid services and mtx.
There is a clear difference between playing retail and loving being treated as cashcows. Almost none except the most extreme corporate shills enjoy paying money to get things in the game.
oh ok, i missunderstood that, i thought you ment the lasted retail version, that they where subs, ok got ya.
i looked at the data and had to look like 10 times to realise that they added the goundwork into the tbc beta client, ( its mindblowing to me) nobody knows why, yet… but its there. just look it up. We will see in time anyway.
Yeah it’s indeed weird, but it might also be ground work for upcoming expansions. The client is supposed to evolve into other expansions further ahead.
I cannot understand them being worried about some drum changes and at the same time wanting to add transmog lol… Same with classic, they are now doing some changes but that’s almost 2 years later.
Boost, faction change etc is not really a gameplay feature. But transmog would indeed be, and I am heavily against that. Cuz that would affect everyone.
yeah sure there are alot of other possibilitys that could explain that. Its just seeing that and thinking that this could be in the in tbc is concerning at least, because this is how it would start.
When i see how they tackle the drums… oh man, i would love to have your faith in blizzard ^^
At the very least they tackle it with causion. Right now it just emulate the original patches, we get the buffed drums last phase or something like that? I do beleive they do that because they are worried about changing stuff too much.
Yes the change as been proven has not been well received, but not because its far from original TBC but rather that it wont have a huge effect on the issue.
So my point is that they really seem to be scared of adding stuff that makes big changes to gameplay and strife too farm from original game.
I like that kinda, it would show that they are aware. I dont know man… i guess we have to wait and see, because bliz is not that vocal about almost everyhing, besides drums and worldbuffs.
I’ve probably made like 1 thread.
I’ve replied to a lot however.
You’ll understand one day
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I tried so many times to make you understand that the boost is good for some people.
Too bad you are so stubborn. But you can have your own opinion ofcourse.
Just don’t expect anything to happen against the boost. More people then you think are gonna use it. Also it allows some people at Blizzard to buy that 10th house.
LFR is good for some people. Transmog is good to some people. No-LW druns are good for some people, multiboxing is good for some people.
If it’s there people will use it on subsequent characters. Asmongold summed it up well. It’s bad but if it’s in the game a lot will use it because it gives an advantage.
Let me put it differently. Boost is good for most people. As most will use it.
It is not bad because some random dude says so.
Besides boosting will not effect you or the way you exp the world. So it is innocent.
Im glad Blizz thinks smart and want us loyal players to play TBC. And you should too, more players will be in \TBC because of the boost.
If not wasting precious time in life is an advantage in your book then, sure.
I do not see it as such. The counterside is i need to spend precious money.
And being 58 is nothing special nor can it be considerd as a significant advantage in any way
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