So the question i want to ask here, how can i find a fresh run?is there a way i can queue and make sure its going to be a fresh run?This is getting ridiculous each week i do this i always end up at nzoth without it being a fresh run and i have to do it twice and wish for a fresh run, this is getting honestly out of hand. People just pop out once carapace is done and then everyone in the queue is put in the nzoth fight. Please dont start with the its lfr bla bla stuff, cause honestly i am sick and tired of wasting my time in the queue times of retail. 1 hour queu to pop in and do one boss and 1 hour to pop in and might find a fresh run, been doing this for 2 months now? so lets say 2 hours of queue time only ( lets not take into account the 10 wipes on nzoth so another 2 hours there but that doesnt count we are talking about the queue now ) so thats basically 16 hours worth of waiting in the past 2 months. Not cool 
Also now that i remeber and i am editing this, i am doing this on both characcters and it happens to both, one horde one alliance and its the same thing. So basically 32 hours the past 2 months
no there is no way of ensuring to get joined a fresh run. groups which have to be filled up will have priority over fresh ones.
But that s really bad and a waste of time, like i just queued up twice while writing the post and botrh were nzoth , first time i didnt get desserter for some reason second time 30 mins gg.
yeah but if they dont do it this way then runs with people missing will never get new members thus never finishing it.
you could also just stay in the pug and queue again. eventually you will finish it even if people come and go.
what do you mean stay in the pug and queue again? the groups i join are always at nzoth so carapace is already dead?
The best way to get a fresh raid is to kill n’zoth if you get put in a raid that is already 1/2 and then que up again.
No there isn’t. While I do sometimes wish there was an option a lot of times i’m glad there isn’t. The queues are long enough without people picking and choosing what boss they want to start from.
Way to not read the post past lfr
Way to post something shortsighted. realize there aren’t enough new groups because of what I linked. Have fun zug zug
In my experience it you join a lfr group on nzoth, its because they have been wiping and people leave
You can queue for lfr in about 6 hours of work after hitting 120. Old content has nothing to do with no fresh nzoth runs. People just keep wiping on nzoth and leaving
If nzoth and cara lfr dropped440+items there wouldn’t be JUST nzoth groups (85% of time) 
Your posts never cease to amaze me. Im speechless
It is something that’s been suggest over and over…to add the ability to quee for random or fresh LFR wings.
But if you ask me LFR is in for some rework.It’s an outdated tool.The whole Nzoth fight just proves you cant throw ilvl at players and hope for success…the majority of people in lfr dont have 3 essence slot…the fight is badly tuned,and so is the whole LFR raid.(like we have the problem with timewalking)
When you enter a pug and you enter in a group that it is at Nzoth you need to stay in the group and kill Nzoth . Once you killed you queue again and then the queue will put you in a fresh run, because the people who has already killed Nzoth but not the first bosses have priority to join fresh groups or even directly they only join fresh group
i never knew this was actually a thing, but at the end of the day this is what i am trying to avoid? the point though is to get the fresh run in the first place and not do nzoth first then requeue
Sure, but unless people stop quitting in Nzoth there is no way for you to avoid it, so the only way to have a fresh group is to have priority for those groups, and that means killing Nzoth
If no one left the raid group in Nzoth all groups would be fresh, while there are people who quit Nzoth in there is a need to make people join in Nzoth.
Easy fix would make nzoth first and carapace last boss, no1 would leave like that 
eh just join a normal nya pug. Plenty of them running, you don’t need 470 and curve for normal.
LFR is horrific. I don’t get why players choose to waste so much time in queues and then wiping on stuff because half of the raid is afk or doing 8k dps. I started my nyalotha progression in normal pugs, then did some heroic pugs (about 6/12 HC). Without a guild that is, i joined a casual guild already being 6/12H. It’s possible and doesn’t take as much effort as bothering with LFR.