What's up with the hate from alliance players on this forum?

Right, so we have Mr. Knows it all, the one that posts on his Alliance retail toon, but it’s the fiercest defender of Horde in Classic, can’t show your true self?

Now let me see if i understand, you start AV near the center of the map and can shut down every move from opposing team, because you reach faster everywhere that matters in the begin of the match, but that’s a disavantage?

So we start the game, when people play it right, most times they don’t and mindless rush, with half of the people with 60% mounts, and we are already defending our most south GY at the moment, and if we loose, we will ress in Dun Baldar, the most far away GY, is this a bug!?, but we have the advantage, because we ress there, ofcourse we have the ress advantage, hey Blizz, let’s change it so that Horde can have instant cap at SH GY, maybe remove the time to cap and make it instant, and you can win 100% of the games instead of 99%?

Let me see, in NA forums people are asking, both Horde and Alliance, for Blizz to make AV starting positions random, would you agree with that? If Horde wins because you are better players that shouldn’t be a problem, 99% winning would remain, right?

If AB was designed like AV, Horde would start at BS and all the fights would be at Stables, with Alliance defending their ST ress point, and you would be arguing that we still have it better, because we ress and beat you, and you have to send numerous waves (battles, i forgot your semantic twist), until the other side was tired and gave up.

No need to worry, i and numerous Alliance players gave up on AV long time ago, only go there on AV wekends and beat you up 30% of the time.

When you loose AV you start yelling on your fellows saying they are Alliance rerolls, right?

So, in summary, i’m not going AV, and i urge all my fellow Alliance mates to do the same, also, please don’t post anything here about AV, let our silence be so loud that echos through everywhere, i’m sure Horde is so superior that they can play AV alone and discuss AV alone, and maybe sometime in the future they can step down of their superior place.

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Im really sure if AV map was equally balanced alliance and horde win would be 50/50 . If alliance cave was near shgy like horde cave near ibgy it would be a different story

Perception increases your stealth detection by a very large margin. Just by using in on cooldown in WSG/AB allows you to see any stealthed character circling around. Every Human using it can see me in stealth when I’mup to 20 yards away from them since they just instantly max-range charge me.

Which is apparently not affected by pushback and only mages can reapply that slow fast enough IF they have Cone of Cold ready

Shadowmeld still allows you to set up an ambush as a hunter/warrior/priest which is insane in itself

Can’t say it works in pvp unless the resist chance is reduced by the amount of hit the enemy player has, in which case it’s absolutely useless.

First Aid is still better and most of the time people take the insignia or they ress before cannibalize is complete.

Affected by pushback, so the 1 second cast time becomes a 5 second cast time and when it goes off, you’re already dead.

I do not know you could even be right.
But guess what? What seems to matter at the end is if enough people believe Horde are the best choice.

… Grow up. Mentally, that is.

So you gave up on trying to refute what I’ve been saying, so now you rely on nonsense again? Nice one.

Shame you already said you understand that part though.

It’s funny to see your arguments crumble.

However, you’re just going around in circles, so read previous posts for answers you’ve already given up on trying to refute.

Cannibalize doesn’t stop just because the corpse goes away via ress or someone looting the insignia. It just needs a corpse nearby to start casting it, after that it just does its own thing. Cancelled if the undead takes damage or moves though.

First Aid is generally better in BGs just because it heals faster.

Didnt expect a straight up and honest answer, youre allways selecting small parts of others text to reply. Still not showing your classic toon, hiding behind a retail Alliance toon. About my arguments allways said that gy ress at SH GY is a minor advantage that doesnt outweighs the major disavantages that we have on the map, for instance Horde cave location. But continue wirh your opinion and i Will continue with mine, thats allowed, i think, agree to disagree.

Longer then any book i have read

But to stay on topic the allys are the bad ppl always

It’s funny, it’s typical when people stop trying to counter the arguments themselves that they resort to underhanded personal attacks instead. (I tend to counter and attack at the same time though, because often it is the underlying reason behind some people thinking so poorly.)
It’d be truly stupid to expose oneself to the mob mentality of circlejerking of you people who claim the map layout is causing the losses though. Also, I used this char as a forum character long before Classic came out. Even before the switch to the new forum domain in Legion. No reason to stop now, just to give you people a target you can harass in-game, on discord and on the world buff website.

Read previous posts, since the answer to this has already been brought up. Which you still haven’t been able to counter.

Of course it’s allowed. Doesn’t mean you’ll be left alone to shout your crazy nonsense in a public forum though. But good luck with that.

Damn it, making me scroll through it all lmao.

You have repeated this lie so many times that now it’s true in your mind.

Outside of a period where the tryhards switched to being Human for EMFH.

On my first years on this game I had taken to calling that faction Lemmings Union cause I thought the name “Alliance” was too good for them.

I never said that when did i say that? Allys are eaters of toilet stuff

I can confirm that as one of them

Not a personal attack, just pointing out a fact. So if fighting near your GY is such a huge advantage, why dont Horde wait up for Alliance at IB GY? If the map isnt better for Horde, why dont you agree to swapp starting positions?

Because there’s very little thinking involved? It’s just rush to kill enemies and to grab objectives, not a planned strategy. Just what do you expect out of randomly matchmade strangers?

Because immersion matters.

Is that meant to be funny? Grow up, please.

Because it would be a waste of time for Horde, if you can grab SH GY why wait at IB GY? Because that way Horde protects towers and lt’s that otherwise would be with little defense, Because it’s a terrain gain, it’s control of the map. So to be on the attack team is allways better than just defending.

I’m betting you’re terrible at chess.