Which is hard for Nedra. She never cared much about the Horde but she still sees herself as a Blood Elf. She went to study the Void despite Rommath’s warnings because she thinks that mastering the Void could be the key to saving her homeland from any other attack, not to wage war in the name of the Alliance that doesn’t like her kind much anyway.
They want our city too. Read the US Forums. High elf fans are greedy jerks. They will not stop until they have everything owned by the blood elves.
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I know, but that thread is a bit silly, just made to talk nonsense about Quel’thalas and the Blood Elves. Some High Elf fans became a bit crazy after the Void Elves were introduced (although quite a lot of them left WoW too, calling Alleria a disgrace for such a silly race).
And I wonder if they created that thread in response to yours, Erevien…
My Blood Elves spit on them, Nedra just wants to go back home regardless of which faction Quel’thalas chooses to belong to.
I don’t like Alleria either, it irks me when I use /charge on Nedra and she screams « for Alleria! » 
She’s thankful that she saved her life but super mad at her because of what happened at the Sunwell. It’s much more meaningful to hear Anariel, Nedra’s Blood Elf older sister, scream « for Anasterian! » when she charges 
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Nedra can be fine then…for now 
but her return is impossible until the Sunwell stands as it is now…
but seriously, despite my dislike, I’m a bit used to the Void Elves now, they wish Silvermoon to return to the Alliance but don’t seem a major threat for now. I still generally dislike non-Horde Trolls more in general. It also depends from what Blizzard will do with a future update of Quel’thalas, giving them a portion of the zone would be bad if they are still a threat as a race for example.
I will not forget how Blizzard introduced them in the story, though. They could have just made them out of Alliance High Elves, but nope 
not to mention the premise is already flawed, the ancestors of Dath’Remar travelled from Tirisfal to Quel’thalas exactly because Void energies were making them crazy, not just because they were seeking a homeland with magical laylines for a new source of power…
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I don’t even have to try anymore.
Feel free to ignore me since it’s none of my business, but why are you so dedicated to harassing someone you constantly disagree with? There are some people on the French forum that many other players dislike, but nobody would go as far as creating an alt containing their name to fight them like this, I really don’t get it. Let me know if I’m missing something, but doesn’t that go against the social contract?
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Is it harassment when I point out the gaps in his flawed “argumentation”?
Is it harassment when I undermine the one-sided picture he tries to draw?
Is it harassment when I joke about his ridiculous threats to the Devs?
Is it harassment when I name my character after him when he creates starter alts to evade forum bans?
Sorry, but if my behaviour were a violation of the Social Contract, then he should be long gone by now.
If you think of my behavior as harassment, feel free to report me, it’s on Blizzard to decide if I’m overstepping. But before you do, I urge you to look into his post history and at least ask some german players from the story forums about his transgressions there.
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He should be gone as he is using a second account to bypass a current suspension which is completely against the forum ToS.
https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/000256989
It wasn’t allowed when somebody else on the general forums did it, and I don’t do special snowflakes. Blizzard Forum Mods allowing this to happen are not living up to the social contract either as it would create more toxicity.
I wouldn’t even allow somebody who agreed with everything I said to do such a thing, because the rules are the rules and WE are expected to follow them.
He has been suspended/banned from the US forum, and even Mmo-champ (and thank God he never actually knew about Scrolls of Lore before that forum was closed because it was full of Alliance players) but the point is, he always return like a Lich. That’s part of his strategy I think.
But sometimes he still makes points that are somewhat good, or at least valid though. And at least he turns the conversations funny even if toxic…
Be that as it may, we can’t make excuses for going against what is clear in the ToS.
Otherwise, why shouldn’t I get suspended and make a new account to circumvent the main suspension? No, it is not acceptable.
I wouldn’t even allow somebody who agreed with me on everything, to do such a thing because they are breaking the rules. They are suspended for a reason and they have to accept it - take personal responsibility, wait for their time of silence to be over and come back later, when they conduct themselves in a manner that is with the forum ToS.
If a pro-Nightborne, anti-Blood Elf poster can be silenced permanently for doing such a thing, then here is no different.
Except that’s not the only thing you do
You’re pretty one-sided too judging by some of your replies that contain more spite than lore argumentation
This is obviously trolling and if anyone were to take it seriously, it should be the devs. Not some forum vigilante in my opinion. Report, ignore the person, move on.
Yes, it is harassment.
I would if I could speak German but I don’t. Regardless, you don’t fight back bad behavior with worse behavior. You and the other Void Elf Erevien are far from being better than the person you keep harassing over different opinions on a video game.
Report him if you can prove it. It’s not the players’ place to harass someone because they don’t respect Blizzard’s rules. Report, ignore the guy and move on.
Which also contains anti-cyber bullying measures that we are supposed to follow as well.
Harassing or Defamatory
This category includes both clear and masked language and/or links to websites containing such language or images which:
- Insultingly refer to other characters, players, Blizzard employees, or groups of people
- Result in ongoing harassment to other characters, players, Blizzard employees, or groups of people
If a player is found to have participated in such actions, they will:
- Be given a temporary ban from the forums, depending upon severity
Harassment takes many forms, and is not necessarily limited to the type of language used, but the intent. Repeatedly targeting a specific player with harassment can lead to more severe action. The idea behind this is to prevent any one player from consistently being uncomfortable in the forums.
I’ve said it before, I understand why the dude upsets you but it doesn’t justify this kind of behavior.
He has stated it, that the main account is suspended for 3 months.
Dontcarevien has posted it before.
Which I would hope you uphold if I was doing this.
And what I have linked is a straight up, forum suspension. I took great delight in throwing a pro-Nightborne poster off the forums when he was circumventing his forum suspension.
You follow the rules and you take any suspension with personal responsibility.
Nor does it justify why he should get to break ToS and yet others would get suspended, permanently.
I’m sorry, but I don’t believe you would give me the same curtsy and I think you Nedra would take great delight in making sure that if I did this (or you suspected it) in making sure that I was silenced, for good.
He could be pro what I’m saying and it doesn’t matter to me. The pro-Nightborne poster liked everything I said and I still worked to get him off because you can’t do it. It’s breaking the ToS, which is, by Blizzard’s wording, is a permanent forum silence.
maby ask one to translate or alternativ google translator…
there is no real excuse…
Oh, if you look once into the kraut forum, you shoud ask senti, magnus and Nilann, those are the holy trinity of the story forum.
he even admitt it, even here,
@nedra
here you go.
He admit his main is banned until wensday and post with the alt account, which is not allowed.
I think you should worry about that too. Judging people on their opinions of game elements isn’t something I do, but as soon as I said that Night Elf paladins didn’t make sense to me, you chose to come at me using my dislike of Tyrande and the Night Elves to attack me instead of bringing up the simple fact that Night Elf paladins NPCs existed in the game (which I didn’t know) to prove your point.
I’m aware of my passive aggressive tendencies that sound condescending in English when they’re fine in French, but if you ever feel like I’m really crossing a line in the domain of insulting or harassing people please let me know. That’s not what I post on this forum for.
The excerpt of the rules about harassment I posted comes the link you shared
Which I never said.
Thank you but that’s beside the point. I didn’t ask you to prove it to me, I said you guys should report him if you have proofs of him trespassing his ban. You have said proof, send it to Blizzard
Again, judging me without knowing anything about me or my own values that have nothing to do with my opinions of the game and its lore. I don’t even agree with all the things that Erevien said, of course I would defend anyone who gets constantly targeted by people who go as far as making characters with their name to spite them. I don’t know why you pit me as your enemy when none of our disagreements mean anything to me personally. I don’t hold grudges against anyone here.
Nedra, I think you need to reflect on that you are passive aggressive and I won’t submit to that.
You need to work on how you speak to people as well because when it comes to disagreeing - I don’t really want to talk to you because it’s not a discussion. Your talking very much, down to me like your better and I’m lesser.
I never asked you to submit to anything though. But seeing as this conversation is going, it’s best that I don’t pursue it with you. The one going too far won’t be me.
Nor will it be me.
I just won’t be indirectly bullied by people online and I will stand up for myself and what I personally believe in.
If you want to have a discussion then that is fine, but talking down to people who you just don’t agree with will not give you what you also want from this.
i guess he is well know meanwhile and this even bother most players, blizzar is aware of him, he got in the german forum multiple banns but showed up after a while, others woul get an perma suspension for the behavior, but not erevien. his thread got mostly erases with an suspension of a few days but thats it, only with greater efforod and many complais we actuly achiev he got an longer supension, - last time 3 mounths and now he is still quiet for at elat for two mount.
He plauegd the story forum for years now…, others gets mor light thins harder punishments. (1 mouthn suspension or mention of …well, a brothel- which was in the rp forum to justifed the conzep…i look at you karazahn, and ilidans haremm and the boralus club aswell)
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