I am not fun of you marm, but this is best post (answer) regarding pvp and bgs.
Because we clearly never lose when we play bad, aka ignoring objectives. This isnt something speciffic to alliance. You forget your constant waves of teammmates pouring from SHā¦ Also, you forget that most of the time you are very successful when in 1 big blob of players. Charging warriors get insta stunned /oh, yeah RACIAL saves me, true/ killed on spot. You cant reach healers, and even if you do, they just bubble. Ally zerg is very hard to kill.
I guess this is probably true, when the alliance actually has a blob fighting back. On the rare occasion that I queue for AV all I see is the alliance retreating when they see a horde group riding and dodging every fight they can, and when indeed there is a clash the horde outnumbers the alliance because we decided to go split ways and divide our forces. I see 3 dudes shouting different contradicting commands at the start of every game, one dude wants us to gather a blob at balinda to wipe the horde there, the next dude wants us to rush and take SF and the other dude wants us to rush Galv, in the meantime we never have 10 players together in the same location and when the horde blob arrives we all know what happens and from that point on it gets near impossible to come back because people will start going afk etc or just unable to regroup. If the players had a winning mentality and stood together and fought tooth and nail Iām sure we wouldnāt see so many weaklings whining about map design or racials.
I just lost my second AV in a row. Both times, same way. 25 Allies with 6-7 healers cap IB GY and then slowly progress south. There is no way to stop them, unless all raid is defending. No way to pass through Warriors and Mages and kill or CC Bubblers.
In first minute, I wrote in raid channel (because I have seen this scenario) āIf you donāt come south to help us, we gonna loseā. But no one seems to understand this. Horde is so used to win easily, that they dont even consider mass defense.
We got only 400 honor less than Alliance, but who gives a f uck about that. Itās a defeat.
I start to recall(!), why I hated Paladins in Vanilla. It requires skill and coordination to stop them. And those rarely can be found in a BG .
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I actually won my first AV in two months yesterday. Managed to get into a Premade, still. There still managed to get some group of ppl at once in the BG, and those led us to victory. It went pretty smooth, killed Drek, but also had IB, TP towers and killed lieutenants before doing all that.
Nice experience, too bad the criterium is to get into a half-premade AV to win these days.
Itās not that S H I T zzard would care about that. Thats the truth.
Imagine how much skill and coordination required to win against not just one class, immune to controls, but two entire races who can roll any class and swarmed bgās with all their āfairnessā 
Its not hope, simple maths.
In pvp fights somebody always is under controll, stunned, feared, mindcontrolled even.
Like 90% of horde is almost immune to abilities making you loose control over your character.
On alliance side only paladins can be immune on 5 min cd, and paladins is like 5% of average alliance BG.
So in typical group fight horde always outnumber alliance at least twice due to control spells they using against allies in clash of even numbers.
Horde warriors charges, fears, and 20vs20 is always like 19vs12 in horde favor, almost half of alliance constantly feared and stunned.
So yes, keep dreaming you mean something in those āfairā wins 
It isnāt 90%, it is at least 120%, the 20%+ is just to be sure it never happens.
First of all ignore beware and that human horde warlock, just as i do. There is no way to argument with their bs and nonsense. Eventually they will get bored talking with themselves and they would just go silence.
Second, ichirga, play ally right now, in classic, with actual knowledge about the game. Speak after about ally advantage.
Since the premades are impossible now, the only way to have a winning chance as ally is to take ib gy. But you cannot just take it, since horde ress in caves with much more numbers and reach ib faster than we do. So only way is to have SF, before attacking ib. Then we are able to reinforce a little faster ib. In this tine when we must use all our numbers to have a chance, 10-15 hordes is burning our base freely, because we cannot spare one single man until we have ib. If we get ib then we can afford to recall and start caping towers.
Thats why is very hard for us to do it. One single mistake and we lose sh before sf and ib, then we all are stuck north impossible to pass icewind choke.
We cannot afford to fight mid cause pushing slowly closer to ib, eventually will get us out of resources and wiped.
In this time horde just need to take sh in start and is gg.
Ally biased my as*s
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Strange, I didnāt saw any complain of where the cave is located when AV Alliance Premade was a thing. I saw only Alliance mocking Horde.
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Ohā¦ its so strange - they started first! But mommy Bliza told them to stop bullying us and changed the rules, so now its our turn to bully them!! WAAA WAAA
P.S. I hoped wow player base would have grown mentally over the yearsā¦ obviously I was wrongā¦ You are currently doing the same f*cking thing 
Ichirga and Beware will obv. like your postā¦ after I wiped the floor with one of em, I donāt have the energy to do so with all of ya
Not correct, my gaming experience shows that at least half of the time the alliance gets and keeps IBgy. Without having SF.
Where do i speak about ally advantage. You speak about ally disadvantage.
This applies to exactly the same extent to horde.
If only it was that simpleā¦
Much, much biased.
Why so salty mate? You sound just like a bad player that canāt see obvious issues outside āunbalanced mapā and canāt acknowledge other problems with a much greater impact like instant queues and the alliance lack of fighting spirit. But by all means carry on being a loser.
And you seem like a 12 year old (mentally, if you are not 12 it speaks worse for you) that bases his arguments (if you can call them that) on hearsay and suppositions instead of on numbers and factsā¦ and once someone calls you irrelevent - which you are - you resort to calling people names and attacking them personallyā¦ grow up babeā¦ or go play Pokemon GO! WoW Classic is not the game for you And you aint bringing dogsh*t to the discussionā¦
#WoWKindergartenMentality #AtItsWorst
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Lol mate, build yourself a time machine, go back 15 years in time and enjoy a 90% win ratio with the exact same map design and racials.
Surely you must be referring to Marmelade and Leda and Piolho to name a few.
Every time I queue for AV all I see are 30 scrubs that canāt play the game and consistently turn away from every clash. Good luck winning running away from the horde every time a horde group comes their way.
Ofcourse i like honest and well-thought post by anyone, regardless of faction. To me we are all players, some of us just whine and find exuses everywhere.
Weirdā¦ the Regardless of Faction thingā¦ I wrote at least 5 of them here, so did 2-3 other people on ally sideā¦ but havnāt recieved a single like from youā¦ who knowsā¦
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Well, obviously i canāt read all. If i read something you have written that appeals to me, i will like it, be sure.
Oh there is a bunch of likeminded individuals to you on ally side, I wouldnāt dare say otherwise - both bother me - trust me. This is why 90% of the thread is going nowhereā¦ we are focusing on BS and tribalist attacksā¦ and I have often disagreed with alliance BS on this thread too