Why AV is ruined at the moment! Why alliance can't win!

Same, and there has been a MASSIVE influx of just straight terrible horde players that REFUSE to take the mid fight, they also REFUSE to defend anything they just want to rush north and hope they win.

Ironically majority of these players are fully pve geared characters with full PvE specs (fury warriors in LEATHER, raid spec mages etc etc) And if you even try and give helpful hints on how to win the game, you are told off or completely ignored while they zug zug north and lose the game.

All this started on Thursday btw, on Wednesday I won every single game and racked up 150k honor, today I’m struggling to hit my 110k daily quota.

Thankfully I am done with ranking after this week and I will never do AV again in my life.

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I intially didn’t want to bother answering you but because you gave me a good laugh I’ll go on:
Really? Rank? The most non-meriotocratic system to have ever existed in the history of mmo-rpgs? The thing 90% of people get through spamming av’s, out which 80% they lose?
I’ll be rank 11 in a few weeks, just for fun. It proves nothing and it has no value past getting you the pre-marshal set.

That’s why I just said ‘‘allow 40 man premades’’.

Well earned, I’m sure.

Not sure what you are implying? All of the gen 1 rank 14’s did AV premades but we still had to play 12-16 hours a day minimum on many servers.
We were still forced into WSG premades the final week, or in my case the 3 last weeks where it was purely premade vs premade unless you sniped hours you knew there were fewer premades playing. Heck some of us were even forced into AV again due to long WSG queues.

Awww poor you.

Going AV with a 5man high rank group was a reward and not a punishment. So not quite poor us. Was real fun! :slight_smile: I don’t understand why you decide to jump to ironic conclusions instantly rather than getting your head on straight instead.

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Time sink aside, AV premade rankers are essentially a laughing stock.

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AV is a BG where 40 players of each faction do battle and in the end Horde wins!

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Not even sure why alliance queue for AV. They expect a 10 - 15 min game and if it last longer they blame everyone and their grandma for it. Those who try to do something will eventually get reported afk by others for extending the game over 20 min. …

Gary Lineker was right.

AV is simply a FKfest for the horde… they farm honor and rep, uber gear themselves through the kazoo, making the difference between alliance and horde even greater. Not only is the Map itself broken, but now, after weeks or months of rep grinding destruction, the horde simply out-gear the alliance. It’s not a joke its a payed for fkfest!!!

fix it Blizzard… and fix it fast fkers!

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Horde and alliance don’t compete against eachother when it comes to ranks so if horde has better gear it’s not because they win AV. Alliance probably has more r14 players due to bracket stacking tho.

Its not my experience. I lost some games where Alliance had 5 or more rank 12-13 players. They charged. My Priest died.
I see a lot of Horde with Sulfuras and Obsidian Blade, though. Healing them, wins most battles.
Anyone else noticed/thinks that in AV Horde players are better equipped?

Today I lost more AV than won, stop crying the alliance. It also takes me many hours to rise and I see a lot of alliance full of healers Paladin and priests of the highest rank.

Had a good streak in AV lately, won more than lost the last couple days. Still it feels like luck.

  1. Getting into AV with high leadership guys, who know everything about the BG and manage to motivate people to listen.
  2. Horde at the same time being pretty bad.

Still it was fun. It required grouping up, splitting forces, keep track of ninja teams etc and win the BG over the duration of 1 hour each time. STILL we were unable to keep IB initially, due to the horde respawn advantage there. But in the long term organization won.

Another BG was done by what horde usually does: nothing, just go hardcore defense and disrupt whatever the opponent does. After 3 hours of stalemate, horde sat in their cave and let us kill Drek.

Both felt really good.
-The one game won by superior organisation against horde natural advantage in AV.
-The other game won by giving horde a taste of their own medicine and do nothing but disrupt opponent plans, untill they lose spirit and just go afk.

Why is it you rarely see stealthers go south and cap towers, recap bunkers or in other ways make a living h… for the opponent? Back in the days it was quite common that a group of stealthers had as a task to cap/recap

you also get instant victory because of racial imbalance and map imbalance. MOSTLY MAP IMBALANCE. You guys literally start the game with a 30% advantage. Your choke points arent choke points. Your gy’s are right next to objectives.

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Alliance have better racials for AV…

Both factions have their own advatages in AV. Alliance have for example a base that is extremely easy to defend compared to the Horde Base.

Lol. To both replies. Just lol. Please explain how 35 alliance players couldn’t crack FW - You got range in towers, traps at gate. GL sunshine GL. You feel you’re right even though the actual statistics of the current win ratio states that you’re wrong.

Fw Towers are actually in a defensive position at the gate. If both our bunkers were at the bridge I might believe you.

Oh and dont say ‘summon the tree’ He gets kited to your cave and dies or the druids bug out 80% of the time so he never arrives.

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Same for Horde, you can kite Lok.

If you look at the replies, Alliance players win when, a least, they want to.

Then they will organize accordingly, the bosses aren’t there to lead the charge, they worked as the backbone of your army not the scoot or the front line.

You have to peel for them, secure them, even at the cost of your life.

When you want to win, you can make such sacrifices. You’ll overcome the outcomes, and play for others and not for your advantages.

If you really want to win, you will give your everything to do so.

Something, like the smell if blood, is still in our DNA.

I’m currently monitoring 2 possible outbreaks :

  • the moment Alliance will be so eager to win, they will crush the Horde ;
  • corinavirus.