how are ground / air assaults / special troops on horde side better than on alliance side? care to elaborate?
how is the class advantage for group play on horde side when you alliance has the best pvp healer in paladin? he gets 12 sec of uninterrupted healing every few min and can save another player from melee dmg for 10 sec every few min. hell he can use them both at the same time.
you think shamans are that much more superior?
i agree that in pug v pug shamans may be stronger than paladins cause of the chaotic playstyle that is pug v pug and no good form of communication.
but in a coordinated grp a paladin will always be better than a shaman
Everyone can pass IW choke point. Just not when the zerg is there. And itās there only for couple of minutes. No one guard that point.
Also, Horde base has zero NPCs. Alliance base is filled with 20k life NPCs and elites. They defend better than Alliance players. And the worst of all, y canāt go ooc to drink (healers).
I never get, why is that considered an advantage.
Cave location and backdoor, are the only issues I see.
Hahaha. Take all of these so called advantage. You can even start with ally based burned by default and it is still the same. Those so many elite npc in our base you always skip:) geez now you out of words and put rams as excuse? Lol
I said i will not repeat myself but i will do it for you cause you amused me funny orc.
While we are at balinda (useless npc, 2 shamans with grounding totem can beat her) you are there to. Even if we want to tag sf we still have to pass you while you already tapped it.
If we get ibgy without having sf, not only we have no reinforcements but you ress in cave, 20 at a time (in sh or stormpike we ress 10). You should have ressed by fw and not cave. It takes you like 25 sec to reach ingy. Now pls do the math.
If you take sh, we ress at stormpike (not cave like you) and we ress 10 at a time plus it tales us around 41+ seconds (with 100% mounts) to reach sh. Again do the math.
Your towers are easier to protect. You can launch attack to either tp or ib gy from cave, fw side and that ruined tower hill. On contrary on our side, you just have to stay to the chock point at icewing bunker and you hit 3 birds (sh bunker, sh gy and icewing bunker) with a fuking stone
Our base has 2 backdoors easy to pass, while yours have 1 (the one from the village is crap cause doesnāt reach fw keep) which requires you to be prince of persia to pass it
Back to towers, fw towers so close to each other, shooting us plus your range up there (being safe) and melee at the ground make very hard to penetrate
Back to gys, ingy is hard to reach, since you can assault by 2 sides, from road and up from hill, plus archers from ibtower shooting in our back. Nice choke point as a horde defender at ibgy. Easy to defend from north. On sh, you have 2 ways to attack and you can even easy pass to north with no problem. Also we are so stuck in a tunnel when we ress sh. The hole map is favoring attacking from the south to north, while is punishing attacks from north to south.
So tell me? How does our base and rams help us in this situation?
I will gladly trade all these so called ally advantages for horde advantages, letās see then how you will defend the horde map advantages.
But like i already said, i am happy av is now almost free of afks and bots and we are still able to farm some hks when we need it.
Just keep in mind:
BLIZZARD
DOES NOT
GIVE A LITTLEST CRAP
ABOUT ALLIANCE
When hordies were whining about our premades - blizzies made everything to break them. Now they just donāt care, their hordie pets are happy, and that is enough.
Iāve been doing this for the past couple of days and the flow is almost always the same. We def SH, go IBGY, lose IBGY, cause its indefensible, lose SH and weāre choked to death.
Until this is fixed I will be doing whatever I can to drain as much rep as I can giving as little of me as I can, and when Im done, my foot will never be set in there again. Never. I heard its been a while since its like this which is disgusting. Not paying for another playtime any time soon, even if it is fixed.
The situation now is so bad like it was before the changes.
At least Horde players should have the honesty to come here and say, we know things are bad for Alliance but we like how things are itās convenient for us Horde.
Not coming here making up all kinds of retoric, canāt you guys be honest for once?
Itās not right that you loose one GY once and you loose the game, itās even worst if the other side loose one GY and itās all good, you proceed and win.
And the worst thing is that you loose one GY once and you loose the game and get zero bonus honor, so you loose by a landslide.
I believe that if you defend and lose SH GY, while Horde is rezzed at SF or even IB GY, you would lose the game, even if Ragnaros defended your base.
Personally, I lose 1/3 games. I donāt know where that 9/10 AVs dominated by Horde is coming from.
I donāt mind loosing some AV games or the majority of them, Horde is faster, and manages to kill Van before we kill Drek, but we did most of LTās some towers and we make 3k in half an hour, itās ok.
The problem is that most of the time the games go for 1 hour or more and we get zero bonus honor, because we end up turtling in our base and the famous patrols still going on the small passage, because many of enemy team donāt care to help attack our base, just want to keep everyone from getting some LTās, itās the search for the perfect AV.
Iām guessing that if there was some russian horde in most servers nobody else would have high rankings because you farm honor in the least efficient way.
Different people believe all sorts of shait. They believe in god, homeopathy, that astrology works and that Slizzard Bucks does not lick whorde anuses and AV is not insanely whorde-oriented.
The map is actually alliance favored. Itās the meta, alliance trying to win as fast as possible or give up, and give less effort in general due to way shorter queue. For horde every AV counts.
Yea, but one could not believe in god, homeopathy, conspiracy theories, and still be dumb. That person, wouldnāt even worth to be explained anything.
The worst mistake, that Allies do in AV is that they are not bold enough. When they zerg IB and get it, they often overestimate Horde numbers defending south, and progress very slowly. I know it because I like to defend (and LTs, Commanders,towers) and so many times we were like 10 against 20-25 Allies with 4-5 healers. I couldnāt understand why they dont zerg base and defend GY there. Our base has zero defense.
I also donāt understand why Allies always lose SP GY while they rez there and Horde rez on SH.
It is mostly a matter of who wins the fights.
I donāt mind if the map became symmetrical. I need unfair advantages to win a BG But it would be boring. Backdoor, cave location and Prospector pulling should be fixed.
PS: donāt need"
In AB, if you are defending a node with equal numbers you should never lose it, because you rez there and the opponent rez far away. Except if the opponent is far better equipped/skilled. The same applies in AV GYs. And for some reason, SP GY is lost by Allies in 100% of games Iāve played.