Seven minute wins are not existent anymore. For both sides.
People shouldn’t be afraid to die. I ride with my 60% mount from IB to SH, just to sap 1 healer, Cheap Shot+ Kidney Shot another and Blind a third one. Sometimes I die in 3 seconds. But its worth it. Its the best service I can provide to my team. The same applies to a Mage. Dive in, Counterspell, Frost Nova, Arcane Explosion, Ice Block, Arcane Explosion again, die. But no, they will stand at distance, Frost Bolting Warriors. Then drink for mana, and repeat. What a pleasure to be alive…in a f ucking MMO.
Horde play more aggressive, so I guess the problem is even more severe on Alliance side.
And if course I agree that Alliance refuse to defend.
Today in a AV, three of us (Rogue, Warrior, Shaman), destroyed the two Dun Baldar bunkers and soft captured FAS GY. No more than 3 Allies came to defend.
The other two Hordes, used backdoor though. It should be fixed.
PS: Alliance don’t have “For the Alliance!” mentality. On Horde side, I see faction pride all the time.
Well like i said horde doesn’t have a problem of not being able to continue playing after dying, worst case scenario they res at cave and can join defense or go offense if alliance is already in their base. If alliance is going for IBGY or has it tagged and is waiting to finish a cap but lost SH already then you can’t lose anyone. Any player you lose will either go afk or try to bash his head on IWB choke and if you aren’t stealth class good luck going through there. Also most of alliance mages in AV are most likely rep farmers and rep farmers won’t even respec for pvp so forget about ice block or ice barrier. Most of serious alliance pvpers are warriors (a lot), some rogues, some healers, retardins, maybe some warlocks or hunters. There are barely any mages pvping compared to how many of them is playing in pve.
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Curious - are Horde even having fun in AV when there is basically zero resistance outside of maybe 20-25 non-AFKers?
nope.
it sure makes the weekly honor grind (to maintain current rank) easier and less troublesome… but fun? no, not at all. if AV was fun i’d be in there a lot more. its currently a snorefest.
just yesterday i was in an AV where every alliance player except for a group of 7 against whom i was the SOLE defender in IB were either afk in cave or failing to get past IW choke. after whittling them down one by one, dying many times in the process, i managed to safeguard IB gy and the towers.
then i rode north…
and do you know what i saw?
about 20 alliance players FISHING
this included the people i necked down south earlier… they didn’t even make an attempt to get south again after getting wiped the first time.
all in all, its the alliance player’s attitude that makes sure they lose. its not the map favoring horde, its not that IW choke is a magical impassible barrier, its literally the fact that the alliance just gives up and goes fishing… so yea, no its not fun.
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well there is rogues and druids who camp graveyards of horde. picking their victims for best honor possible and providing a big positive not letting some hordes come by for defense/offense so not all rankers are terrible for AV.
Alliance can’t win because Alliance has bad players.
Because every single AV game in my experience are leeching stealthers or bots . When someone leads the game we usually win , but its highly dependant on that issue i mentioned earlier in this post.
Thats just a myth , both have respective guilds / players both pvp and pve wise.
AV is horde favoured because of cave position. Playing both factions i am around 48% winrate in WSG and AB as horde , 60% winrate in AV.
As alliance in around 51% winrate in AB and WSG , while av is 40%.
408 games AV alliance recorded, 15% win ratio
It’s free boost for their ego.
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And this is a great example of mommy’s pvp-er. Little boy chose to play big green orc, “mommy, look, I’m playing orc!”
And also imbalanced racials and hordie-preferred bgs count.
Making tryhard alliance russians ragequit every bg is good job.
Who cares? There are plenty of things which were not available in vanilla - IT’S NOT VANILLA ANYMORE!
Slizzard Bucks afraid of whorde’s tears and just broke the only way Alliance may play on that shaitty map.
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booo hooo im a hunter and i still lose in pvp where is my iwin button
That’s you reply to:
“In AB, if you are defending a node with equal numbers you should never lose it, because you rez there and the opponent rez far away. Except if the opponent is far better equipped/skilled. The same applies in AV GYs. And for some reason, SP GY is lost by Allies in 100% of games I’ve played.”
???
What I read often is “We lose 99% (thats a lie) of AV games. That means overpower races, a map that favors Horde IN EVERY WAY and part of it etc etc”.
And of course, “Blizzard loves Horde, because more people play that faction” argument.
Alliance players that try hard to win, are the one that participate in these threads. Because they care. But they assume that rest of their faction players also try hard, and still they lose a great majority of AV games. But maybe, leechers, AFKers and just lame farmer, does not participate in forums. Because they don’t care.
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So it’s fine for alliance premades, but not alliance pugs / horde faction? l ol.
A lot of alliance don’t bother trying to win, since it’s faster to lose an AV and get more honor rather than trying to “turtle”
Lol xD.
16 games on my alliancechar and still no win. We got dominated most of the games,but even when we had great lead and teamwork we just could not win. Horde walked into our base (not caping towers or gy) and killed that stupid dwarf 
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In the latest meta we were just joining all together, getting 10-20 people in discord and that was enough to win or to at least get good game, not slaughter. This did not affect alliance puggers, only whordies maybe, but I consider that this evens the odds to win for us - AV map is utterly horde-oriented.
And Slizzard Bucks broke it anyway.
So, the alliance needs premades in order to win AV…?
But, no… it’s because a lot of alliance give up too early as they don’t want to “turtle” to maximize their honor gain.
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