That.
You get into the game, with poor gear, a lot of spells of which you don’t know a single one, and no riding skill.
You won’t make a day in Outland.
Retail at least has a class tutorial. So, unless you add a class tutorial for TBC classes, there will be a lot of players who will just scream on forums that the content is far too hard.
It’s amazing to see people defending paid boost.
Next they will defend the LFG system, Achievements, Daily Quests, Multiple Raid difficulties and other features that are in Retail.
I think boosts will be used by mostly bots about %95 maybe more.
Gold inflation in TBC will already skyrocket due to the current meta in WoW Classic.
What Blizzard need to focus on in my opinion is not making the game faster and focusing on the oncoming faction shift from Alliance to Horde. Currently Horde has long queue in BG’s I cant imagine how it will be after 90% of Alliance moves to Horde and quests are increased by 500%.
No harm in trying
I can’t. I don’t have a level 10 on a US account. (technically I do but it’s on a trial account but it doesn’t seem to count)
Yeah fresh realms would have NO transfers so that people with loads of gold and materials cant infest these new realms. Because you wouldn’t be able to transfer to these fresh realms, that’s why you could have the boost to make up for the fact that nobody has any chars on that realm. Basically, these realms cater to every1 who didn’t play classic and don’t want to play it, Leaving the existing realms for those of us who did play classic. That’s the idea. Of course if you had it my way, I’d have no boosts at all because I don’t think they’re necessary but that’s why it’s called a compromise.
Most of the time, the paid boost defenders are just being egocentric by definition, as showed by their claims.
With their arguments, you could justify implementing paid raid weapons in the game because “I don’t have time to raid” “It won’t affect your raiding anyways” “stop being elitist”.
Yeah we reached the point where playing the game normally is considered being elitist.
This is the problem. 1-58 is probably the EASIEST and shortest grind in tbc and they complain that they don’t have enough time to do it. If they dont then they wont get anywhere in tbc. As for the they dont like it argument, there is a group of players who may not like any 1 thing in the game but if we added paid services for them, then you could buy anything u wanted. Gold would definitely be the next step.
Yeah it’s not like there is plenty of time to tell your friend that tbc is coming and you might want to level up.
The arguments being used to defend the boost would directly apply to the wow token as well.
If you’d told me during classic that there would be a level boost in TBC, I would have and still do consider that outrageous and crossing a line I never thought they would. They already have the token in china, so I don’t see why they couldn’t do it here too.
BS. But, let’s say it is. Gold is also a massive blocker from content so to avoid dividing friends, why don’t we make it so those who don’t have time to make gold can still afford to raid, pvp etc…
“The arguments being used to defend the boost would directly apply to the wow token as well.”
I dont think anyone is defending the token, I wouldnt defend it, I’d be very ticked off if it ended up in classic. Being able to buy gold (which is already rampant in the classic servers) is a big no. I farmed elementals for my mount quest gold, I’ve used raid gold to handle respecs and repairs, I got lucky watching the AH to get some cheap enchant mats. Buying those things is definitely not ok for me. It’s far far different from the boost, getting a very basic level 58 with no gold,no professions, basic gear and having to go earn all your stuff is ok with me as you are still going out there to earn it, yes you get the character but you dont get mats, gold etc.
Also the claim that you’ll get level 58s with spells they dont know is a bit reaching isn’t it? 95%+ (guessing) of those players who use the boost will be doing so with a class they know how to play, given they played it 14 years ago. Or it’s a class they’ve levelled a bit to say low 30s and have become comfortable with it as an alt.
If this were brand new content and they gave away boosts it would be different.
The only point I’ve seen raised that is of concern regarding the boost is the easy access it gives botters. On this point, I’m sure blizzard are or will be aware of the issue and have a plan. The easiest of which would be make the boost time limited, 1 month after TBC opens they remove the option.
Alternatively the old RaF could come back somehow? Then we can give our friends levels although this still doesnt deter bots so…
But you see, you’ve just done exactly what I was saying. One of the biggest defences of the boost is that ‘‘players are already dungeon boosting so it’s clear players want to do this anyway’’ and that’s exactly what could be said here. ‘‘gold buying is already being done on a wide scale so why don’t we just add a way to buy it from blizz instead’’. There is literally F all difference between the 2.
except levels??? You’re kind of missing the point. Why is it ok to have to earn all those things but not levels?
how many things can you (or know someone else who can) remember how to do correctly after not doing it for 14 years?
For many players, TBC is new
you’re kidding right?
At least this would give players an in-game option to level faster rather than just purchasing a boost. If it was back in original TBC, I wouldn’t be opposed to it.
I think RaF can work. Added in patch 2.4.3.8601
Well I dont really think of levels as being earned, it happens passively as I play. If I want to craft that epic piece of gear I need to go earn it through farming mats and recipes. Levels are just given out by playing the game, you dont need to make decisions about them (maybe twinks do) you dont need to visit a trainer for them, you dont need to plan them.
You play and you level, several times I’ve played and dinged and I’m a level or 2 more than I thought as I wasnt monitoring them or eagerly awaiting them.
Let’s wait and see what they announce over the next months, I’d personally go for the time limited plan as it sets a date at which the offer ends.
I blame mages 
I DoNt SEe hoW mE buYiNg WoW ToKeN Is AfFectInG YoUr gAmEpLaY
But it doesn’t. That may your perception but it isn’t accurate. Your actions in game directly correlate to XP gains. Kill a mob = + XP, complete a quest = + XP, explore a new area = + XP etc…
If I want level 60, I’ve got to earn it through farming mobs and completing quests.
‘‘gear is just given out by playing the game, you don’t need to make decisions about them’’
But what about the poor players who didn’t have enough time to play before the boost was removed… how are they supposed to play the game copperbolts!!!
no, I blame blizzard. Mages didn’t make blizzard do anything. There were plenty more solutions before needing to result to a boost.
This level boost is Blizzard basically saying “Leveling in wow sucks”. It just doesn’t. It’s one of the best parts of the original (pre-Cata) game and leveling has been one of the best things of Classic. Even if you don’t like the leveling and only care about endgame, you cannot deny it is a fundamental core element of vanilla wow. You go through hundreds of hours leveling your character, and it makes you form a bond with your char, which is an essential part of any RPG.
I was looking forward to TBC encouraging people to make new alts, which would help re-populate the world, in terms of group questing and group dungeons.
But with this level boost, there will be far fewer new players out in Azeroth, and far fewer current players leveling alts.
This really sucks and I don’t understand how Blizz feels they can justify it.
Robotick Kotick just wants to hoover up all your money and doesn’t care that they are damaging a core aspect of the game.
edit: Also please block this pay to win boost at least on RP realms, ok thanks bye
It’s still passive, you would have to intentionally go out of your way to avoid being given XP.
Crafting requires you to actively go do something.
Sure just go get any random piece of gear, I’m sure itll be useful, oh wait, to gear your character requires planning and running specific content.
The news is big enough, the chatter about TBC is enough, if you are interested in playing TBC you’ll keep up with what’s happening and know you need to do something within the time limit or level up from 1. Its then up to the players to get the offer.
I think your keyboard is broken?
Atleast I can buy a new functioning one.
I don’t think you know what passive means. If I don’t do things that don’t give XP, I don’t get XP. My actions directly correlate to gains in XP.
Sure, just go do any random level quest or kill any level mob, I’m sure it’ll give XP, oh wait, to level your character requires planning and running specific content
why can’t that be said about RIGHT NOW??? Why can’t people start preparing NOW and level NOW?
Yeah it is except when it comes to levelling yourself of course?
No it doesnt, you just play the game. You can of course plan to optimise via a paid for guide like Zygor (I hate btw) or you can simply just log in, follow the hints and you’ll be gaining XP.
Well many are, I saw lots of new characters in low level zones.
However there are going to be people who cant do that at the moment for whatever reason, mostly RL stuff that takes priority.
you could literally use this vague statement for ANYTHING in the game. Literally anything
so you admit there are decisions to be made… cool. And you don’t even have to pay for anything, you can figure these things for yourself + plenty of guides exist online for free + you can still optimise without doing the most efficient thing possible. It’s a spectrum. I don’t follow guides but definitely try to optimise my game time.
‘‘follow the hints’’??? Do you mean completing content in the game but you don’t want to use that terminology because it would self-defeat your argument.
But that still applies for a month or 2 months after launch, so having the boost being temporary doesn’t hold up in your argument.
As for the ‘‘people don’t have time’’ thing. It’s been said in retail for years but people haven’t changed. What has is the old player base. Old players have less time but there are still us young folks who want a more time-consuming experience (I’m one of them). 1-58 is such a short grind in TBC vs almost every other grind you will have to do that I think if you don’t have time for it, you probably just don’t have time to play the game in a substantial way.