It feels like all the posts for the boost nearly have the same wording I really wonder if they are the same people.
Bots are running everywhere, economy is already f&*ked and this gentleman writes about how optional boost will ruin it all!
A good laugh! Talking about selfishness and carelessness!
And then:
Yeah, let’s exaggerate things a little bit. Because one thing leads to another, You know, now boost, then armageddon!
Name one.
Endless Cash shop
Elysium Sells T-shirts
Phoenix Sold ingame raid items
( 3 very popular Pservers, Phoenix is no more )
All Pservers have some sort of shop or donation system. Due to the fact than it’s not free to host a server for thousands of players.
Before you go rampage jackson about Nost:
They did have a donation system at some point, but it was taken down due to ingame server drama.
Someone also claimed Nost was funded through other Pservers cash shop, but I can’t confirm this 100%
There are six reasons in the very thread you replied to, and none of them are ‘I don’t like it’. There are numerous reasons in the opening post by parrydodger and none of them are ‘I don’t like it’. There are numerous arguments in all the other threads on this topic, and none of them are ‘I don’t like it’.
Nobody on the entire forum has used the argument ‘I don’t like it’ to argue against pay-to-win boosts. On the contrary ‘I don’t like levelling’ is used constantly to argue in favour of pay-to-win-boosts.
Wrong.
Entirely irrelevant. The fact that Classic ‘might have ended at Naxx’ has no bearing on pay-to-win boosts in TBC. It might have morphed into Classic+, it might have featured Gnomes in polka dot bikinis, it might have had Elvis return to Azeroth in a rhinestone spaceship. Still boosts in the expansion are a bad idea.
How is “TBC might not have happened” translate into “pay-to-win boosts are a good thing”?
I don’t care if they have 100 L60s. It makes no difference. By that same logic someone who has cleared Black Temple should automatically have top tier raid gear given to all their alts because they’ve ‘already done it on one character’. That’s not how it works.
Playing properly is playing the game as originally designed in 2007, not using exploits to skip part of that game. Hopefully you and other pay-to-win supporters are now properly enlightened.
Far more progress that attending a raid or dungeon for 10 minutes and then logging out.
No, and even if I could that would be irrelevant, and have no bearing on the subject. Nobody here has claimed that ‘only retail players have this mentality’. What I claimed is that people with this mentality have a retail mindset. A retail mindset is a mindset that is based upon the notion that only endgame matters, and everything else is a pointless tutorial that should be skipped.
A bit like Facebook.
There are six such reasons in the thread you are responding to, numerous other reasons in Copper Bolts’ original post, and numerous reasons in the other threads on this topic. The fact that you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge any of them, and keep on claiming that they do not exist and we’re only using personal opinion does not invalidate any of them.
Agreed.
Why? What’s to win?
OK Copperbolts, we get it. You’re a millennial that doesn’t understand MMOs. You see nothing wrong with dungeon boosting, you see nothing wrong with lvl boosts. I suppose you’re a huge advocate of the WoW token as well and would be totally ok if they added it to TBC classic, same with store mounts/pets/services etc.
You’re all wasting your time trying to change this individual’s mind. Not gonna happen. It doesn’t understand MMO game play. A game that requires time and effort just doesn’t compute with these newer generations. Gotto have that instant gratification yesterday.
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@All: Different people have different views on things, including what actually constitutes “pay to win”.
The old school definition was that one paid for something that was absolutely not available without paying. At least some eastern MMOs had companies sell superior gear that did not drop anywhere (or had such insanely low drop rates (in a single hard to reach location) that they were only technically “available”) and that was (significantly) better than what could drop.
Reaching level 58 without paying anything on top of the subscription fee is possible, so certain part of the player base views it as not pay to win. If different parties are not able to agree on what actually constitutes as pay to win, we get the kind of tug of wars these thread lead to. 
The basic question boils down to: Does a possession of an (additional) 58 constitute a win of some sort? And the answer… Depends on the person answering the question. Some will answer yes, others no.
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Now explain to me why should I waste 2 weeks of my time when i can play retail having fun
and when TBC will be released i just buy token with my golds convert them to balance and buy boost to 58
I know classic people like wasting their time on boring and tedious lvling again and again in endless circle but that is not my concertn
i don’t even care about golds or ruined economy …cause i’m not gonna play TBC because i want to farm golds there…i will play becuase i like those dungeons you know?
So by this logic …if i want to be selfless i need to do boring and tedious lvling in classic becuase i will help TBC economy. srsly dude it’s GAME man i don’t care about GOLDs there it’s not wall street i’m gonna be there to have FUN 
AND if meteor hit the earth IF and again IF this comparison is bad just as classic lvling
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this is a completely BS lie. I played on elysium 1, light’s hope and nost (basically the trinity of vanilla private servers) and all were loyal nochanges (better than blizz pulled that off) with no cash shop conveniences, cosmetics or p2w AT ALL. They had a donation button and that. was. it
You have no idea what you’re talking about and clearly never played these servers. I am aware that elysium is still going so I have no idea if they sell stuff TODAY but nost had nothing and shut down as per blizz request and light’s hope shut down when classic came out because it just wanted to provide that experience when no1 else would and were not for-profit. THIS was the audience blizz appealed to (and every1 knows these servers were the biggest by far).
And just in case you didn’t know: Nost was the original server, when that shut down, some devs carried the character database over to elysium and when elysium died they carried their character database over to light’s hope. The 3 were connected.
play retail and have fun then and leave classic be then.
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Opinion based, the boost on retail i believe is about £50-60, monthly sub is about £10, its not hard to unsub (for tbc players) save a few months of sub money and get the boost.
This only concerns those who want to make new accounts to sell profession cooldowns etc, basically you dont like it that someone might take some trade away from your characters. Furthermore even without the boost the new character you need would get boost from the guild/friends anyways, its not like you gonna ‘enjoy the journey’ when you want that cooldown ready to go.
Opinion, lets say a current classic level 60 t2/t3 geared player goes and has a break. Also a player comes along with the boost, this boosted player then logs in almost everyday for a year, contributes massively to their guild and the world in general. After a year the classic level 60 comes back, get a free ride to 70 via friends/guild, gets gear pushed to them as most others are geared up. The 2 players at this point have about equal /played - is that boosted character worse than the classic 60 who just carried through content? Is their accomplishments in playing the content, grinding the rep somehow invalidated by the classic 60, just because they levelled 1-58(60) but were also then carried to 70?
Again the boost isnt for classic, which despite some claims means tbcc, is just classic.
Opinion that these things are ok, for me i dont think they are, this type of thing is what has lead to the boost, not retail ‘mindsets’ but this very behaviour thats rampant in classic by classic players.
Opinion based, you cannot ever prove either way this claim.
Adding some more restrictions to the boost, giving it a 3 month time limit or making it more like the raf system.
There as i said most things argued against the boost are opinions or ‘i dont like it as it effects by gold making business’
I say the same for the anti boost posts.
See above, there are ‘i dont like it’ reasons.
Again its not pay to ‘win’ and im also not a ‘supporter’ (we’ve been through this) but i do believe this game can be played in a wide variety of ways, there isnt a ‘right’ way to do it. As long as you are enjoying your time then you are doing it right as far as im concenred.
You’ve just swapped mentality for mindset and made the same claim. I want to see absolute evidence that somehow ‘retail’ players are this worse breed that you seem to imply.
Have a read through what i’ve been saying my dwarven friend. The main point i’ve been making in most posts is this
your game is what you make, and how much you enjoy it is up to you
in other words, here is a massive game world now go have fun
You do realise i played a paladin, right? the slowest auto attacking white hit wonder in the game!
i can tell you now, there is nothing instant about a paladin! i’ve also worked to gear up for multiple roles, tanked when we were running dungeons for AD rep, healed in raids and also got together a semi ok dps set to bring nightfall into raids.
Dont make assumptions about other players, its the worse trait i see on these forums.
I’ve also stated the token would be wrong and that the boost wont lead to a classic shop (implying im against the shop)
I didnt mention names, that was another poster.
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I’m neither pro or opposed but this is one of the most non-sense answer i’ve seen in a while here. Level boost does not affect your direct interaction with others in the world of warcraft, arena boost/bug exploit directly interfere. It literally has 0 in common.
It does share a fair part with account selling though, but even that is very different since when you’ll buy an account it’s pretty much going to be a overgeared char and thus it’ll be pay to win. Not sure how you’re gonna pay to win with a level 58. Sure you could argue “it’s easier to reroll to fit in the meta” and what not but 1) everyone knows the tbc “meta”, 2) if someone is going to reroll every month to fit in the meta considering the amount of time you have to put into one character, he’d probably do it whether there are boosts or not.
Where is your worksheet that prooves that people left because of new mechanics, saying this with such autority, surely you have something to back it up right? Isn’t it just because people lost interest in MMORPG? I’m curious how you’re going to prove what you claimed.
And to finish, Classic community is no better than retail. Classic community has 0 in common with OG vanilla community, and it’s today also just a glorified online shop for the most part. When I log in classic or retail and read trade chat, I see the same thing. When I go into capital cities, I also see all the people of my realm, I see very little of them on the road in my journey to 60.
I’m against level boost because I think leveling is a normal process to get a grasp on your class, but all this “community is great in classic bad in retail” is weird because of all the friends i have in WoW, the only ones liking classic community are the ones who never played the game when it was current.
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Classic levelling isnt boring and tedious
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Oh, and tell me, how does deliberately losing in an arena match, then deliberately winning an arena match and letting the other team win in turn hurt anyone?
How does using an exploit to clear content hurt anyone?
How does selling your account on Ebay hurt anyone?
Do not be so dense and think before rushing your fingers on a keyboard. I’ll give you a short exemple as to why those are differents and i’ll leave it to you figure out the rest.
We benefit of something called freedom of movement in most european countries right (well not since lockdown but w/e). Me walking in the street is perfectly normal and acceptable, me walking in the street pushing people away with my elbows ain’t acceptable. You see the difference lies in the fact that in first place I don’t directly interact with somebody, the other I do (in a disagreeable way). Now we could have an argument as to what is direct and what is not, but the only certain assumption is that touching someone is a direct interaction (unless you agree 100% with Descartes which i’m not)
That’s why i’m sayin that boost is very good for me and for people like me cause i like TBC end game not leveling
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well I like TBC pvp not professions so I’d like to pay for capped proffs for tbc please…
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you people on forums like what ? i’m talking from my perspective for ME lvling in CLASSIC is tedious and BORING cause when i sit every mob to restore my mana …and i don’t play the actual game that means it is boring cause i just looking at my screen and waiting AFK
THAT’S WHY I DON’T MIND boost because i just want to lvl from 58-70 fast as possible and focus on the MOST fun thing in wow since TBC
DUNGEONS/PVP/RAIDS
THE END
ye but 58 is not CAP lvl 
so i don’t know about that one CHIEF
i still needs to do 58-70 and cap profesion
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yeah but I don’t have time to cap profs so I’d like to pay for a prof boost please…
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You haven’t answered the question, you simply provided an example of direct and indirect action.
I’ll choose to ignore your use of snide personal insults and keep it civil.
So, once again, of the three examples I gave, which of them causes harm to others?
Oh, and freedom of movement has nothing to do with ensuring people’s personal body space is respected. Freedom of movement is allowing members of EU countries to live, study and work in other EU countries.