Why did you roll on a pvp server if you don't want to be killed?

[Lieto-shazzrah]

@Himin-zenedar

They could have locked toon creation to faction or limit spots to people so if we have 1k horde or alli online only 1k can enter on the other faction.

That’s not what i asked.
They could’ve done a million things, they could’ve completely. How did you “figure” that they will do any of that when they never done it before?

[Lieto-shazzrah]

@Côy-mograine

The problem is NOT that its a pvp realm, the problem is when your level 52, and trying to level and REPEATEDLY gangs of 60 players kill you, over and over. You have NO defense, no chance and gain nothing by fighting them sins you WILL lose.
Where is the fun, the scum that engage
in these gang-feasts should go fight there own level instead. But no, they chose to gank the free targets… the problem is it WILL kill the new player stream, no one wants to play on a server where you can hit 60.

Let me ask you this: have you ever ranked to r14?

[Delicha-outland]

Hahaha are you for real? The balance is completely fine? Almost every pvp server is horde dominated, you are just a clueless troll if you think otherwise. The gankfest was never this bad back in vanilla tbh (EU servers).

[Swamper-bloodfang]

You are a liar.

[Snafu-draenor]

@Septimius-gandling

Funny to see it is only hordes (The major dominant factor) that are trying to defend and justify this imbalance as something “natural”, and try to make it looks like people a complaining about when PvP, when the reality is that they complain about the imbalance.

You realise avatars used for posting on the forums might not, and often do not, correspond with faction played, right?

I post on Horde and yet I play Alliance. Who’d have thought that possible!

[Natsha-zandalar-tribe]

@Luna-stormreaver

So I am genuinely curious why did you roll on a pvp server if you don’t want pvp?

I will give you a genuine answer.

In Vanilla I rolled my first char on Earthen Ring. NO pvp and i missed the tension. The feeling of danger.

I then rerolled on RP-PVP defias brotherhood at launch and played there for 4 years… and I can tell you this. It never was this Zergfest as we see now. People are frantic to get their honor points. And being a level less than 55 on a server now means that you can do nothing.

I Love PVP servers. But I like it when people does so with a bit more class and brain.

[Greybushy-bloodfang]

Defias had some good WPvP!
But yeah, the current state will die down after a while and things will normalize a bit. Even those with nothing else to do will mostly grow bored of the zergfest.

[Jajwynfas-draenor]

I did a hell of alot more research than you have it seems

Didn’t read this though?

The inconvenient truth of world PvP & why to turn War Mode off and roll PvE in Classic

For as long as I can remember PvP players have been telling me two things. To get the most out of the game you need to play with on a PvP server (or with WM on) and the PvP is imbalanced, these two things are often expressed at the same time. There is no design solution to the War Mode problem as the problem is not with the design it’s with the participants. The nature of player vs player, when compared to player vs environment, is substantially more competitive as there is a “winner” and a “lo…

or any of these

World PvP Killing Classic?

You should have known you were told Here’s me tellin you all The inconvenient truth of world PvP & why to turn War Mode off and roll PvE in Classic Here’s another https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pve-or-pvp-still-don-t-know/74751/10?u=jajwynfas-draenor and another https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pve-or-pvp-still-don-t-know/74751/14?u=jajwynfas-draenor Here’s one in video format [ - YouTube] Everyone one of the ‘informed’ crowd knew this and we tried to help yo…

[Luna-stormreaver]

I am fine with rebalancing the servers what I am not fine with is people jumping head first into things they clearly are not prepared for. All the people who come and complain on the forums about this must be here first time because otherwise they would have know all of this would have happened because there have been plenty of warnings.

[Evenshade-firemaw]

More like getting killed by groups of 40

[Mindgms-shazzrah]

You made me giggle! I’m just avoiding to play except raids for a few weeks (by then the bg’s will probably be out) and if things don’t start turning the right way I’ll probably just log on for raids or not at all. Rerolling is too much of a hassle for me as I’ve invested too much time (by my standards) in this char and if it keeps going this way the server will eventually die due to no alliance playing on it.

[Firespark-zandalar-tribe]

Guys, I think the problem is that majority did not understand what phase 2 means - Stop questing and start wPVP (camping / ganking in other words). Phase 2 is out, you can not do quests or dungeons anymore, love it or hate it, that how it was designed. Who to blame? Probably Blizzard who should have put a tag to PVP realms that you wont be able to lvl up in phase 2 and will be forced to start capming other players, that would have solved most problems of chosing the right realm.
Other issue I wanted to raise is phase 2 itself. In my humble opinion we had perfect wPVP in phase 1, occasional fights in lvling zones, warzone in STV etc. Different fraction were seen as players not as a resource to farm. What happened in phase 2, we all have turned into rare honor-mines which needs to be farmed. And where the best place to farm this scarce source - of course at the spawning points - FP, Boats, Graveyards. How to farm it fast and efficient - group up and kill players who is lower than you in big numbers. And is it what we call proudly wPVP? When game itself forces you to kill / farm and camp lowbies. Love it or hate it. Do you enjoy it? Is it what you wanted from wPVP? In phase 1 we had enough wPVP, incuding ganking and camping but on a different scale. Players were not seen as a resource to farm which in my opinion is a very bad idea anyway.

[Jajwynfas-draenor]

@Mindgms-shazzrah

it keeps going this way the server will eventually die due to no alliance playing on it.

This is true and has been discussed at length see below

The inconvenient truth of world PvP & why to turn War Mode off and roll PvE in Classic

For as long as I can remember PvP players have been telling me two things. To get the most out of the game you need to play with on a PvP server (or with WM on) and the PvP is imbalanced, these two things are often expressed at the same time. There is no design solution to the War Mode problem as the problem is not with the design it’s with the participants. The nature of player vs player, when compared to player vs environment, is substantially more competitive as there is a “winner” and a “lo…

There is only one solution

New PvE server please - (Solution to PvP issues)

Also acceptable

Please add your support here

[Septimius-gandling]

No one has ever become rank 14 by ganking lvl 50s, 2 hours of farming 50, is done in 30 sec of a PvP vs PvP Raid. Half the horde PvP’ers don’t understand the old rank system. Ganking lowbies is a waste of time, join a raid, and do raid vs. raid events.

[Mindgms-shazzrah]

I would also like to add that killing lowbies as the dominant faction is more against you as you are killing your future potential lvl 60 prey which due to constant ganking without any chance to win may just choose to say…well…I quit. People could learn from dogs

[Cinquedea-noggenfogger]

Cancel the subscription to prove your point.

[Reconwarrior-azuremyst (Reconwarrior)]

Well I understand their feelings atm for the first 2 weeks on phase 2 where everyone is hyped up on wpvp

No one can quest or do anything cause the moment u set foot somewhere 40 horde come down and gank ur GOD DAMN IT BLIZZ WHY CAN’T WE SAY “BUM” THAT STARTS WITH AN A??? 40 v 1 or vice versa etc

If you dont like this sort of stuff, it does get annoying if u get outnumbered too many times, in short succession and have no chance etc
take break for 2 weeks etc

the pvp will settle down
I want world pvp 1v1s n such but that just wont happen for quite awhile

[Lieto-shazzrah]

@Septimius-gandling

No one has ever become rank 14 by ganking lvl 50s, 2 hours of farming 50, is done in 30 sec of a PvP vs PvP Raid. Half the horde PvP’ers don’t understand the old rank system. Ganking lowbies is a waste of time, join a raid, and do raid vs. raid events.

I was actually rank 14 in vanilla. Raid vs raid is not the best honor per hour in p2. Full stop.
Same was true on pservers where first r14s were usually rogues and hunters who soloed everything that moved in high level zones.

Any other ‘smart ideas’ you want to share?

[Mindgms-shazzrah]

“Blizzard: stay right there! You’re hired!”
Money for business…who cares?

[Lieto-shazzrah]

Cancel the subscription to prove your point.
But then you cant whine on forums