Please,bring back personal loot!

False.
Most of people on this topic hate GL and if you do a simple search on this forum about loot,theres at least 5 recent topics about it with people complainig

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Actually he’s fighting with your 5 alts (you keep swapping around) while Thella’s 15 alts upvoted the post.

You guys present your biased observations as facts but when someone pokes holes in it it’s “just your opinion dude”.
I remember PL in SL and most of my upgrades came either from the vault of from trading with my guild.
PL heavily relied on the goodwill of others to roll out stuff they don’t need, but somehow you think that’s more fitting for pugs than this one.

Sorry what? You must be trolling cuz literally every topic I see about loot is people complaining about not getting anything for weeks under group loot and how they loved shadowlands with 2-3 items dropping every raid

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Can you read? That’s exactly what I’m saying, everyone here is whining because they don’t get loot then speak as if loot vanishes into thin air.

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Not really.

Again: when PL was a thing, there were atleast as many complains about PL.
Saying: Many people dislike GL, as you can see from the Topics/Post, is not an arguement for PL since many people also disliked PL, which why there were as much complains.

I can literally say the same thing.

Again: It GL worked for many years just fine and still work in this and many other games.

^This

Same thing happened with PL when PL was the default option.

Seems like an selfcentered issue from people that dont like others getting loot.

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This are just a few topics over the last weeks, I cba searching further and theres another bazillion on US forums of people complaining about how horrible and toxic Group Loot is
Raid leaders kicking players at fyrakk 5% rofl , imagine saying this is the “superior loot” system
Hahaha just lol.
Guys, give it a rest. Cya.

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There is a fixed amount of loot every boss.

IF noone gets loot, where does it disapear to?
Right, there are people getting loot.

And I remember PL well, and still have to deal with PL everytime I play WoW, because this poop system is still the main system for M+.

I am running M 18+ like a madman with 460 ilvl, technically every item that drops would be an update… but guess what I get an item about ever 5 run and its allways the same garbage… I havnt got an upgrade the whole week.

My upgrades are all Vault, professions or using the upgradesystem

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Imagine thinking that getting loot that you dont want or need for weeks, when you just want some specific items… is the ‘‘superior loot-system’’

I rather get nothing at all than 90% garbage. And atleast with GL people can go for the loot they need and want.

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Or the goodwill of others not to roll on an item which they already have but rolls because they “can”.

Both sides has its flaws and no looting option is flawless and perfect.

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For sure, I wish we could explore other options, but each time I see a thread like this it’s always about people who claim that GL sucks because they /roll a 2 on average for 4 weeks.

Heck, I don’t even care about what loot system we use between GL or PL, but it’s sickening to see how low humanity’s IQ can be when you get these echo chambers of “Me and 20 other people didn’t get loot, that means GL sucks !”

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Couldnt agree more…

For me its just: I prefer GL for said reasons.
At the end I use the System I get.


The whole ‘‘I dont get loot so system is bad’’… is selfish and entitled

The main complains about PL atleast was: ‘’ I got loot I dont need (again) and I cant give it to others so its a waste’’ , so more a complain because others having a bad time. So atleast not selfish

Pretty annoying discussion overall

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PL was tradeable as far as I recall.
Sole complaint about it was class stacking by the sweatlords.
Cause I can’t take the “I used to get wispered” complaints seriously(you could always ignore people if you did not want to trade,or trade if you felt generous).

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PL was only tradeable if you had an equal or higher ilvl item in that slot, for the case of rings and trinkets you needed both slots to be equal or higher.

Potato potato…tomato tomato.Why would you trade anyway if its an upgrade for you?
Still a superior system.

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Because it’s more of an upgrade for someone else, or because despite it being an ilvl upgrade for me it’s not a dps upgrade.

Both of which were very common circumstances.

For most of it existence it wasnt or was rather so limited that you couldnt.
1 ilvl higher than yours? cant trade, even tho it had bad stats.
You dont have anything like that, even tho you dont need it? cant trade.

Class-stacking is not really an issue since it is made in its own group, so it didnt affect others. Blizzard seemed to not like those runs for whatever reason… I say let the no-life raiders no life-ing!

It happened a lot. Still happens in M+. Normal people just say yes or no and move on with their life.

Everyone has their own reasons I guess.

I will allways favor GL over PL for personal reasons.


What Ellipsìs said

Ok.I understand your point.Maybe for those in guilds or boosters it’s better now.

There should be choices at least.

So give us both and let us choose which we use.
Cause pugs and Lfr should not have to endure GL.

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None of us ever asked for them to remove PL, we just wanted the ability to choose what to do with the items that dropped.

So we all agree that we want it back then.
:grin:

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I’ll take this or both, or PL with trade restrictions removed.